How old are Safehold fans?

kbus888 wrote:Hi pokermind

Here is a definition that I like - -

"Old age is 20 years older than you are"

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Spacekiwi wrote:

kbus888 wrote:Hi pokermind

Here is a definition that I like - -

"Old age is 20 years older than you are"

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Quibble! 5 years! 20 is under the classification of Really Old.....

kbus888 wrote:YUK YUK !!!

Spacekiwi wrote:

Quibble! 5 years! 20 is under the classification of Really Old.....

McGuiness wrote:

Icecold wrote:To give an example of what i mean:

I had the impression that the last two novels had the equivalent in story as the rescue of Irys and Davyn for one book and the movement off the troops from Chisholm to and through Ravensland (note WITHOUT the actual transport to Siddarmark) for the other. And that's it. Way too little.

I gather that in HFaF all the attacks from Operation Rakurai didn't count as action? Paityr Wylsynn being brought into the inner circle? The revelation that the archangels will return in 20 years? Nahrmahn's death? The death march and execution of the Charisian POWs? The assassination attempt on Sharleyan? After that the rescue of Daivyn and Irys kicked in and we had a lot of fun until Siddarmark was attacked at the end.

MTaT had even more action, with the food lift to Siddarmark and the early skirmishes in Glacierheart. Nahrman returned. Then the war started, the Charisians arrived, and there were some GREAT battles. Oh, and the "weapons which shall not be named" destroyed the canal systems of northern Siddarmark and brought the invasion to a screeching halt in the north. I was certainly never bored!

My apologies if you didn't mean to imply that the Safehold novels are lacking in action and that you simply meant there aren't enough action threads to hold your interest. If you've read the entire series, there are plenty of "Whoa!" moments without swashbuckling and derring do. I enjoy the personalities, the dynamics between the characters, and the sheer emotion of the good vs. evil when both sides think they're on the side of God and the Archangels, although anyone with a functional brain cell and the proper information knows who the bad guys are. Unfortunately most of the planet doesn't have that information, so they think they're fighting on the side of the angels - even though they're siding with the bad angels, but of course they don't know that.

To each his own I suppose, but I find Safehold fascinating on so many levels. The Honorverse is more political, although it also has its moments of heart-stopping action.

RFC, keep on writing and we'll wait as fast as we can!

Icecold wrote:

McGuiness wrote:I gather that in HFaF all the attacks from Operation Rakurai didn't count as action? Paityr Wylsynn being brought into the inner circle? The revelation that the archangels will return in 20 years? Nahrmahn's death? The death march and execution of the Charisian POWs? The assassination attempt on Sharleyan? After that the rescue of Daivyn and Irys kicked in and we had a lot of fun until Siddarmark was attacked at the end.

MTaT had even more action, with the food lift to Siddarmark and the early skirmishes in Glacierheart. Nahrman returned. Then the war started, the Charisians arrived, and there were some GREAT battles. Oh, and the "weapons which shall not be named" destroyed the canal systems of northern Siddarmark and brought the invasion to a screeching halt in the north. I was certainly never bored!

My apologies if you didn't mean to imply that the Safehold novels are lacking in action and that you simply meant there aren't enough action threads to hold your interest. If you've read the entire series, there are plenty of "Whoa!" moments without swashbuckling and derring do. I enjoy the personalities, the dynamics between the characters, and the sheer emotion of the good vs. evil when both sides think they're on the side of God and the Archangels, although anyone with a functional brain cell and the proper information knows who the bad guys are. Unfortunately most of the planet doesn't have that information, so they think they're fighting on the side of the angels - even though they're siding with the bad angels, but of course they don't know that.

To each his own I suppose, but I find Safehold fascinating on so many levels. The Honorverse is more political, although it also has its moments of heart-stopping action.

RFC, keep on writing and we'll wait as fast as we can!

Hmm you missunderstood me, as ive said the Honorverse-novels didn't have anymore action and ive given examples of Safehold-plot to compare these novels with the current Safehold-novels.

Because as you've said: The Safehold-novels had far more action....... sheeesh pleas read my post completely before tearing into me like that i mean i said that were the Honorverse-novel faults and ive said that the plot in thos was imho the equivalent in story as those minor plotpoints..........

Icecold wrote:Hmm, as I've said, it was my opinion and my explanation why I am no fan of the honorverse any longer. In regards to Safehold I've felt that the whole situation started to develop as soon as book two but, I've had the feeling so far that Mr. Weber has it under control ( redundant delete this "so far").
In part because he keeps on killing off POV-characters .

Lets hope that he continues and isn't discouraged by the minor outrage concerning young Hectors apparent demise .