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Re: Reporters on Galton
Post by tlb   » Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:54 am

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penny wrote:I did not say that either. I said I do not think reporters were invited, in general. But Honor can invite anyone she wants. And she wanted to invite Audrey for a specific reason. I got the impression of that in the discussion with Audrey. She also wanted a reporter who she trusts to cover the confrontation. I also got the impression that Audrey was trusted among her peers. If Audrey reports on something and the piece takes on a certain slant, everyone is likely to believe what Audrey reports. Honor used Audrey as her own pawn. She was a political strategy and hole card. Her opinion holds the weight of a gaggle of [i ]other[/i] reporters.

But aren't you worried about having to babysit? And what if the Malign gets their hands on Audrey? Why would Honor invite anyone, if there are all these worries? And if Honor does not have these worries, then why not invite more so as to not show favoritism toward someone who does not report to the GA news outlets? Multiple views are better than a single view.
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Re: Reporters on Galton
Post by penny   » Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:11 am

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tlb wrote:
penny wrote:I did not say that either. I said I do not think reporters were invited, in general. But Honor can invite anyone she wants. And she wanted to invite Audrey for a specific reason. I got the impression of that in the discussion with Audrey. She also wanted a reporter who she trusts to cover the confrontation. I also got the impression that Audrey was trusted among her peers. If Audrey reports on something and the piece takes on a certain slant, everyone is likely to believe what Audrey reports. Honor used Audrey as her own pawn. She was a political strategy and hole card. Her opinion holds the weight of a gaggle of [i ]other[/i] reporters.

But aren't you worried about having to babysit? And what if the Malign gets their hands on Audrey? Why would Honor invite anyone, if there are all these worries? And if Honor does not have these worries, then why not invite more so as to not show favoritism toward someone who does not report to the GA news outlets? Multiple views are better than a single view.

You're still not listening. Honor didnt invite "anyone." She invited Audrey. Audrey is a special case. And for your information, not Honor, nor Audrey nor penny was worried about Audrey being captured. She would have been with her people. Realistically, what could have happened to her? I guess it would have been uncomfortable for her to be tied down on some dinner table and ... and ... forcefed more lies. LOL

No way would the MAlign have allowed harm to come to one of their most valuable natural assets. Not intentionally anyways.
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Re: Reporters on Galton
Post by tlb   » Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:27 am

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penny wrote:You're still not listening. Honor didnt invite "anyone." She invited Audrey. Audrey is a special case. And for your information, not Honor, nor Audrey nor penny was worried about Audrey being captured. She would have been with her people. Realistically, what could have happened to her? I guess it would have been uncomfortable for her to be tied down on some table and ... and ... forced to listen to more lies. LOL

No way would the MAlign have allowed harm to come to one of their most valuable natural resources. Not intentionally anyways.

Good, now we are at the point that I wanted. Audrey is a special case, because no one has to worry about her being captured. So how would that conversation go?

Honor: I cannot take you, because you would be in danger if captured.
Audrey: Actually, that is not a problem; because I really work for the people that you are hunting.
Honor: In that case, of course you can come along in my flagship. But unless that are other Malign agents, you will have to come alone.

The reason why you do not worry about Audrey going along, is the same reason why Honor could not take Audrey, if she knew. Since Honor cannot know that Audrey is a special case, there is no good reason for Honor to give her special priviledges.
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Re: Reporters on Galton
Post by Brigade XO   » Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:04 am

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If a journalist is taken into a combat area by a military, they -these days- are likely to have to sign a waiver of liability and are that they know they are placing themselves in way of possible harm. If you want to drop back to the American Civil War, there were journalist that followed the armies to get stories and usually had to deal with senior officers to be allowed into camps or be close to there the fighting was going on.

Journalists or war-correspondents want stories. Like most field reporters (in a war zone or in a city back home) have to go where something is happening or did happen and talk to people and then submit their piece to their home office- right after the military censor gets though with whatever editing is prudent for security. Ever read letters home from WW I? They often start "Somewhere in France".....and then some officer got to blacken out anything that provided sensitive information.
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Re: Reporters on Galton
Post by penny   » Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:41 pm

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tlb wrote:
penny wrote:You're still not listening. Honor didnt invite "anyone." She invited Audrey. Audrey is a special case. And for your information, not Honor, nor Audrey nor penny was worried about Audrey being captured. She would have been with her people. Realistically, what could have happened to her? I guess it would have been uncomfortable for her to be tied down on some table and ... and ... forced to listen to more lies. LOL

No way would the MAlign have allowed harm to come to one of their most valuable natural resources. Not intentionally anyways.

Good, now we are at the point that I wanted. Audrey is a special case, because no one has to worry about her being captured. So how would that conversation go?

Honor: I cannot take you, because you would be in danger if captured.
Audrey: Actually, that is not a problem; because I really work for the people that you are hunting.
Honor: In that case, of course you can come along in my flagship. But unless that are other Malign agents, you will have to come alone.

The reason why you do not worry about Audrey going along, is the same reason why Honor could not take Audrey, if she knew. Since Honor cannot know that Audrey is a special case, there is no good reason for Honor to give her special priviledges.

That is not why Audrey was a special case. You seem to have been asking me, personally, if I was worried about Audrey. Audrey was a special case because 1) Honor specifically said that she thought Audrey was a fair reporter. 2) Of all of the naysayers in the galaxy who were so outspoken against there being a dangerous hidden entity lurking somewhere about who were responsible for a lot of deaths, Audrey's opinion carried the most weight. If Honor could convince her, her work would be a lot easier. But asking me personally if I was worried about Audrey or if Audrey was worried about herself, then no. Honor wanted to awaken the galaxy to this threat. How better to accomplish that than to turn the opinion of the most staunchest dissenter.
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Re: Reporters on Galton
Post by tlb   » Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:03 pm

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Re: Reporters on Galton
Post by tlb   » Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:03 pm

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penny wrote:You're still not listening. Honor didnt invite "anyone." She invited Audrey. Audrey is a special case. And for your information, not Honor, nor Audrey nor penny was worried about Audrey being captured. She would have been with her people. Realistically, what could have happened to her? I guess it would have been uncomfortable for her to be tied down on some table and ... and ... forced to listen to more lies. LOL

No way would the MAlign have allowed harm to come to one of their most valuable natural resources. Not intentionally anyways.

tlb wrote:Good, now we are at the point that I wanted. Audrey is a special case, because no one has to worry about her being captured. So how would that conversation go?

Honor: I cannot take you, because you would be in danger if captured.
Audrey: Actually, that is not a problem; because I really work for the people that you are hunting.
Honor: In that case, of course you can come along in my flagship. But unless that are other Malign agents, you will have to come alone.

The reason why you do not worry about Audrey going along, is the same reason why Honor could not take Audrey, if she knew. Since Honor cannot know that Audrey is a special case, there is no good reason for Honor to give her special priviledges.

penny wrote:That is not why Audrey was a special case. You seem to have been asking me, personally, if I was worried about Audrey. Audrey was a special case because 1) Honor specifically said that she thought Audrey was a fair reporter. 2) Of all of the naysayers in the galaxy who were so outspoken against their being a dangerous hidden entity lurking somewhere about who were responsible for a lot of deaths, Audrey's opinion carried the most weight. If Honor could convince her, her work would be a lot easier. But asking me personally if I was worried about Audrey or if Audrey was worried about herself, then no. Honor wanted to awaken the galaxy to this threat. How better to accomplish that than to turn the opinion of the most staunchest dissenter.

That may not be why you think she is a special case now, but you have stated that previously; including in the previous quote. Audrey is certainly not the "staunchest dissenter", nor is it clear she is a "naysayer"; which would be why "Honor specifically said that she thought Audrey was a fair reporter". But unless Honor thought that she was the ONLY fair reporter, she would not have been invited alone. Having other reporters in the flagship would present no addition problems over just having Audrey.
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Re: Reporters on Galton
Post by penny   » Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:24 pm

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BTW, am I on another limb alone again when I say that I think that Honor might have an inkling that Audrey is of MAlign decent?

I know textev doesn't support it. I just have that ... feeling.
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Re: Reporters on Galton
Post by penny   » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:37 pm

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Another thing. Can we say for certaint that Audrey isn't … an unwitting spy? Is it possible that she relayed information to the right person that alerted Darius that the GA would be coming to dinner?

I know textev doesn't say it, but do we know everything? Of course we don't.
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Re: Reporters on Galton
Post by tlb   » Sun Oct 06, 2024 7:15 pm

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penny wrote:Another thing. Can we say for certaint that Audrey isn't … an unwitting spy? Is it possible that she relayed information to the right person that alerted Darius that the GA would be coming to dinner?

I know textev doesn't say it, but do we know everything? Of course we don't.

TEiF, on page 603 of the hardback copy, has Audrey meeting with someone using the name of Phoebe at the Der Bierkeller Restaurant in Old Chicago, as the result of hints that Audrey had passed up the chain. This is when Phoebe explains to Audrey that there were two Alignments, one supporting the overthrow of the established order to institute their genetic plans (Galton) and the peaceable one that supports Leonard's original plan to bring the benefit to everyone (Darius). Phoebe convinces Audrey that she is part of the peaceful Alignment.

Whether Galton actually receives more warning than the Detweiler visit gave is unclear. Maybe not, since the Alamo option required that Galton lose.
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