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Re: Potential problems of deck orientation in spider drive s
Post by Jonathan_S   » Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:01 am

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Mycall4me wrote:Where did you get the idea that a spider drive won't operate in a spherical sidewall field?

Straight from the text
Mission Of Honor - Ch. 28 wrote:That meant both that areas no impeller-drive ship had to armor did require massive armor protection aboard a spider-drive warship and that there was no wedge floor and roof for a side wall to stitch together. And just to make matters even more interesting, the spider drive could not be used through a spherical sidewall like the ones fortresses generated.
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Re: Potential problems of deck orientation in spider drive s
Post by Theemile   » Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:24 am

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Mycall4me wrote:
Obviously you're one of the people who believe that impeller drives won't be available in a spider drive ship

Well, all of that is encouraging. On point two about size, I seem to recall that the spider drive is a bulky installation, so that is also encouraging (for the good guys)

Where did you get the idea that a spider drive won't operate in a spherical sidewall field?


Even if you can mount a spider drive and a wedge together, one issue is the mass of the 2 systems - on an SD, the Wedge and Compensator take up >10% of the mass of the ship (the smaller the ship, the larger the % of the ship is used by the drive system,). A conventional SD has a weapons fraction of 55% - add in the Spider drive, upgraded grav plates, and the bubble wall, and that will leave a weapons fraction in the 35-40% range (conventional Frigates had a weapons fraction ~35%).

Also, Geometry is important - for there is a ratio between the width and length of the ship and the compensation field. The field can be changed in shape, but that lowers the max compensated acceleration for said volume. Also, there is a ratio between the diameter of the node ring and the distance between the 2 rings when sails are being created - that's why the node rings are mounted on sections of the hull which are tapered from the max width of the ship. Since spider ships are a consistent width, we would need a ship long enough to create the proper separation between the node rings if the given width of the ship
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RFC said "refitting a Beowulfan SD to Manticoran standards would be just as difficult as refitting a standard SLN SD to those standards. In other words, it would be cheaper and faster to build new ships."
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