Abigale Hearns

ThinksMarkedly wrote:
Indeed I was!

This just makes it even less likely the GSN will be able to concentrate its native-born female officers on a ship for a generation.

jtg452 wrote:You're forgetting that all assignments in a Navy aren't to ships!

Ship posting are often the exception rather than the rule in peacetime navies for some MOS.

You have dockyards, depots, logistic bases, training schools, stations, planet bound bases, staff and headquarters commands, etc... that all need bodies.

Engineers become yard dogs for a while or end up assigned to a ship builiding facility, junior tactical or weapons officers on a command track find themselves in command of a company at basic training or overseeing advanced training as cadre. The same could be said for any junior officer.

Let's not forget staff college, tours in R&D to give a shooter's perspective, advanced tactical schools, too.

Naval officers can spend a whole lot of time on the beach when they aren't actively shooting at folks.

cthia wrote:A big factor may depend on how Alison's breakthrough in the deficit of male births may come to affect their traditional marriages in the long run, when the time comes that there is pretty much parity in the sexes. At that point, several wives may go the way of the dinosaur. At the risk of setting Grayson back decades and starting a battle of the sexes, and erroneously being charged a chauvinist again, a Steadholder's wife may be needed at home if she is the only one. I suppose a maid would be in order at that point.

But still, nobody is going to be able to talk me out of the notion that a badass crew of Grayson women who are feared by the enemy won't simply be like, like...well like ice cream man! With the cake!

ThinksMarkedly wrote:

jtg452 wrote:It depends on whether or not RFC follows his original idea of doing a jump forward in time for the next arc or not.

The original plan had Raoul and his generation taking down the MA.

Unless he changes his mind again, that plan is scrapped. He's already dropped enough hints and a few concrete details indicating so.

That doesn't mean we'll have shorter time jumps, like the 3 years between OBS and HotQ.

jtg452 wrote:It depends on whether or not RFC follows his original idea of doing a jump forward in time for the next arc or not.
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Based on her bona fides with the RMN and being a Harrington protege (the first marks her as a real pro, the second marks her as special), I can see even the most traditional GSN male officer having a pause before doubting her abilities. And then, there's Mateo looming over her shoulder.

cthia wrote:If Abigail married Indiana Graham, what will that mean for Indiana as far as Grayson? Are there any benefits to marrying a Steadholder's daughter? Will he receive enormous finances? Or other benefits?

Where would they live?

"As such, you rightly enjoy a certain standin' and prominence among the better families of the Star Kingdom. However, I think it would be wise of you t' reflect upon the fact that Ms. Hearns can trace her ancestry in unbroken succession through almost a thousand T-years of history t' the first Steadholder Owens. And that despite the fact that she bears no noble title—beyond, of course, that of 'Miss Owens,' which I've observed she never uses—her birth takes precedence over that of anyone below ducal rank in the Star Kingdom."
Grigovakis swallowed hard, and Oversteegen gave him another wintry smile.
"I'll leave you with one last thought about Ms. Hearns, Mr. Grigovakis," he said. "Your family, as I said, is noted for its wealth. That wealth, however, pales t' insignificance beside the Owens family fortune. We are accustomed t' thinkin' of Grayson as a poor planet, and t' some extent, that's no doubt justified, although I believe you might be surprised if you considered the actual figures and how they've changed over the past ten or fifteen T-years. Steadholder Owens, however, is one of only eighty steadholders . . . and Owens Steading was only the eleventh founded. It's been in existence for nine T-centuries, almost twice as long as the entire Star Kingdom. Steadholder Owens is wealthy, powerful, and unaccustomed t' acceptin' the discourteous treatment of members of his family. Especially its female members. I would be most surprised if Ms. Hearns would ever appeal t' him for assistance in such a minor matter, and I strongly suspect that she would be most upset if she ever discovered that her father had chosen t' take a hand in her affairs. Neither of which, I imagine, would dissuade him in the least. Aristocrats, you know, look after their own."

tlb wrote:

cthia wrote:If Abigail married Indiana Graham, what will that mean for Indiana as far as Grayson? Are there any benefits to marrying a Steadholder's daughter? Will he receive enormous finances? Or other benefits?

Where would they live?

It was mentioned in The Service of the Sword that Steadholder Owens is wealthy even by Manticoran standards:

"As such, you rightly enjoy a certain standin' and prominence among the better families of the Star Kingdom. However, I think it would be wise of you t' reflect upon the fact that Ms. Hearns can trace her ancestry in unbroken succession through almost a thousand T-years of history t' the first Steadholder Owens. And that despite the fact that she bears no noble title—beyond, of course, that of 'Miss Owens,' which I've observed she never uses—her birth takes precedence over that of anyone below ducal rank in the Star Kingdom."
Grigovakis swallowed hard, and Oversteegen gave him another wintry smile.
"I'll leave you with one last thought about Ms. Hearns, Mr. Grigovakis," he said. "Your family, as I said, is noted for its wealth. That wealth, however, pales t' insignificance beside the Owens family fortune. We are accustomed t' thinkin' of Grayson as a poor planet, and t' some extent, that's no doubt justified, although I believe you might be surprised if you considered the actual figures and how they've changed over the past ten or fifteen T-years. Steadholder Owens, however, is one of only eighty steadholders . . . and Owens Steading was only the eleventh founded. It's been in existence for nine T-centuries, almost twice as long as the entire Star Kingdom. Steadholder Owens is wealthy, powerful, and unaccustomed t' acceptin' the discourteous treatment of members of his family. Especially its female members. I would be most surprised if Ms. Hearns would ever appeal t' him for assistance in such a minor matter, and I strongly suspect that she would be most upset if she ever discovered that her father had chosen t' take a hand in her affairs. Neither of which, I imagine, would dissuade him in the least. Aristocrats, you know, look after their own."

However it depends upon how much of that is entailed, since she is not the heir to the steading. Still I expect that she will have enough money to live wherever she wants.

I am guessing that he would share her rank, does he become Mister Indiana Graham-Owens?

cthia wrote:Anyone on Grayson, like maids would probably refer to him as Mister Owens. I do wonder what his title would actually be though. I don't doubt that money wouldn't be an object but what is Indiana's net worth? If he is penniless, that might not sit well with Steadholder Owens.