cthia wrote:
Well, knowing human nature and the Newsies, someone is bound to label Abigail, if not one of Honor's actual offsprings, 'Baby Sally.'
Not in Steadholder Owens' hearing they won't. Or Steadholder Harrington's, for that matter.
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by jtg452 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:30 pm | |
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Not in Steadholder Owens' hearing they won't. Or Steadholder Harrington's, for that matter. |
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by cthia » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:53 pm | |
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LOL I agree. I never said it would be embraced. It'd be more like a contraband name in the spirit of The Nasty Kitty. Honor wouldn't like it either, but, still, resisting Newsies and human nature is futile. Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by tlb » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:13 pm | |
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Wasn't the plan to skip to Honor's children dependent on Honor dying at the Battle of Manticore? We know that the next book with Eric Flint (tentatively titled Cloak of Evil, which is the sequel to Cauldron of Ghosts) begins at about the end of UH, and features Damien Harahap and cat joining Zilwicki and Cachet. There probably will be appearances by the ghost hunters also. |
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by ThinksMarkedly » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:36 pm | |
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Yes. And she didn't die. More importantly:
The whole Crown of Slaves series advanced the timeline. The Solarian League was supposed to have some 20 years to realise it was out of date before it got defeated. It got defeated in 2. |
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by Vince » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:51 pm | |
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Abigail has been wearing her Grayson Space Navy uniform ever since we first saw her at Saganami Island at Honor's dinner party at her house at Landing in: Italics are the author's, boldface and underlined text is my emphasis. -------------------------------------------------------------
History does not repeat itself so much as it echoes. |
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by ThinksMarkedly » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:45 pm | |
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Good quote Vince. I just have to add that there's a second now: Midshipwoman Rachel Mayhew. And she comes with a treecat! |
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by George J. Smith » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:57 am | |
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Rachel is not the 2nd Grayson midshipwoman, that was Claire Bedlam Lecroix in the short story Obligated Service. After her there was Cecelie Rustin (also mentioned in the same short story), so Rachel would at most be the 4th, or possibly later if others appeared off camera.
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by cthia » Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:32 am | |
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Yes, wonderful textev Vince, and quite touching. I'll amend my notion to... looking forward to seeing Abigail wearing a Grayson uniform in the employ of the GSN operating out of Yeltsin. I think that covers it.
What would be even better is Abigail as CO of her own ship with a Grayson woman as XO and featuring several other Grayson women in key positions like tactical, navigation and engineering. A Grayson ship making a name for itself. What on earth would her nickname be. The Judgement? LOL At any rate, the GSN can carry the gauntlet in storyline for a while. Grayson shall no longer be considered the weak link in the Alliance's chain. Abigail would represent a true "Mistress after God," for certain. Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by ThinksMarkedly » Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:20 pm | |
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Forget it, there aren't enough Grayson female officers to do that. Not in the time it will take Abigail to reach CO position. Given the size of the GSN, the only way any two Grayson-born female officers in the next few years will end up aboard the same ship is if they're assigned because they're women, instead of taking into account their skills. Someone probably justified assigning both Cecilie and Claire to the Manasseh because the ship had been fitted with berthing for women, but that excuse won't hold for long.
"Shall no longer?" They not only haven't been that since 1906 PD, they were the strongest link between 1915 and 1920. |
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by Brigade XO » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:24 am | |
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Claire Bedlam Lecroix and Cecelie Rustin in the short story Obligated Service were NOT the only Grayson women going into service nor were they the only ones who went through Saganami Island. At one point Claire is recalling (in her head-for out background) that Honor arranged with Manticore for the Steadholders to nominate (I think it was up to 6 each) female candidates for the Island and Clare was one of a couple from her Stedding to go but that- in her Steddings case- the other women dropped out. But there were others and though we only see Cecelie because she was already on the ship Claire was transfered to.
Not clear how many enlisted women are Graysons on GSN ships but at the time of Oyster Bay there is at least one small crop of female Grayson Officers who at that point are ensigns and graduated from the The Island. We just haven't seen others yet. |
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