Iconic Bookstore Burned Down In Riots

(And yes, this is happening...)



https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/t ... r-n1221456

White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twitter

A Twitter account claiming to belong to a national “antifa” organization and pushing violent rhetoric related to ongoing protests has been linked to the white nationalist group Identity Evropa, according to a Twitter spokesperson.

The spokesperson said the account violated the company's platform manipulation and spam policy, specifically the creation of fake accounts. Twitter suspended the account after a tweet that incited violence.


As protests were taking place in multiple states across the U.S. Sunday night, the newly created account, @ANTIFA_US, tweeted, “Tonight’s the night, Comrades,” with a brown raised fist emoji and “Tonight we say 'F--- The City' and we move into the residential areas... the white hoods.... and we take what's ours …”

The idea of attempts to incite a race war has been a thing in white nationalist circles forever.

Let's try a different thing.

Imaginos, let me ask you something: Do you think that law enforcement, in this case specifically the enforcement of laws by US police departments, is by and large fair and equitable? That is, if a person commits a crime, is the police response largely the same, regardless of which community the crime happened in or the community the suspect belongs to?

Do you think that judicial proceedings are largely colorblind? If a suspect is brought before a judge, is their ultimate fate largely comparable across demographics (assuming that other factors, such as the suspect's economic status are equal)?

Be aware that, if you choose to answer (and you are not expected to), your answer should include a response to the multitude of studies showing that there is a clear bias towards more violent prosecution and harsher sentencing whenever the suspect is not white.

The E wrote:Let's try a different thing.

Imaginos, let me ask you something: Do you think that law enforcement, in this case specifically the enforcement of laws by US police departments, is by and large fair and equitable? That is, if a person commits a crime, is the police response largely the same, regardless of which community the crime happened in or the community the suspect belongs to?

Do you think that judicial proceedings are largely colorblind? If a suspect is brought before a judge, is their ultimate fate largely comparable across demographics (assuming that other factors, such as the suspect's economic status are equal)?

Be aware that, if you choose to answer (and you are not expected to), your answer should include a response to the multitude of studies showing that there is a clear bias towards more violent prosecution and harsher sentencing whenever the suspect is not white.

I just perused a study by the sentencing project. It would appear that when you factor in differences in actual homicide rates, Blacks are under represented in US prisons.

So your argument is African Americans commit more homicides or crimes in general?

TFLYTSNBN wrote:

The E wrote:Let's try a different thing.

Imaginos, let me ask you something: Do you think that law enforcement, in this case specifically the enforcement of laws by US police departments, is by and large fair and equitable? That is, if a person commits a crime, is the police response largely the same, regardless of which community the crime happened in or the community the suspect belongs to?

Do you think that judicial proceedings are largely colorblind? If a suspect is brought before a judge, is their ultimate fate largely comparable across demographics (assuming that other factors, such as the suspect's economic status are equal)?

Be aware that, if you choose to answer (and you are not expected to), your answer should include a response to the multitude of studies showing that there is a clear bias towards more violent prosecution and harsher sentencing whenever the suspect is not white.

I just perused a study by the sentencing project. It would appear that when you factor in differences in actual homicide rates, Blacks are under represented in US prisons.

The racial disparity in crime rates varies by offense. The disparity is greatest for homicides. I consider the statistics on homicide offenders to be the most reliable because few murders even try to hide the body so the crime is detected. Since the vast majority of homicides are intraracial rather than Interracial, racism usually isn't ​a potential factor that might compromise the police investigation. I confess that I was somewhat surprised to discover that there is little discrepancy in homicide clearance rates when the victim is white rather than black. I would have expected police to be less diligent in solving murders of blacks, but they are not.


Just for fun, check out this video of Creepy Uncle Joe Biden giving advice on defensive gun use:


https://youtu.be/jafkVM-jnbE

I would point out while this video is funny, encouraging women or anyone else to shoot guns without teaching them how to hold the weapon properly to absorb the recoil is extremely dangerous and cruel. This isn't sexist. Governor Sarah Palin, who probably weighs only 50 kilos, has passed the Alaskan guide qualification course where she had to successfully shoot a simulated charging bear with a 12 gauge shotgun. It was even a pistol grip variant which is far more difficult to shoot.

The FBI Finds ‘No Intel Indicating Antifa Involvement’ in Sunday’s Violence

https://www.thenation.com/article/activ ... trump-fbi/

gcomeau wrote:The FBI Finds ‘No Intel Indicating Antifa Involvement’ in Sunday’s Violence

https://www.thenation.com/article/activ ... trump-fbi/

What about violence in other locations?

Here in Oregon, we have become accustomed to avowed ANTIFA rioting in Portland. It is always amusing when the Right Wing Proud Boys also show up to kick ANTIFA ass.

Since we are talking about other types of violence, please explain why there were never any riots to protest the shooting of Justine Damond?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_ ... ine_Damond

Was there no public outcry because she was a white woman and her killer was a black immigrant from Somalia?

One final thought. Who is prepositioning pallets of bricks at the sites of the riots? I can't imagine how the police could not notice someone showing up with a truck and forklift to offload hundreds of potentially deadly missiles.

TFLYTSNBN wrote:

gcomeau wrote:The FBI Finds ‘No Intel Indicating Antifa Involvement’ in Sunday’s Violence

https://www.thenation.com/article/activ ... trump-fbi/

What about violence in other locations?

Here in Oregon, we have become accustomed to avowed ANTIFA rioting in Portland. It is always amusing when the Right Wing Proud Boys also show up to kick ANTIFA ass.

Well at least you're acknowledging those wannabe Nazis are right wing.

As for the other... allow me to propse an idea. If you have a problem with anti-fascists being active in your area, you probably have a FASCIST problem in your area. And one of those is much more important to deal with.

Since we are talking about other types of violence, please explain why there were never any riots to protest the shooting of Justine Damond?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_ ... ine_Damond

Was there no public outcry because she was a white woman and her killer was a black immigrant from Somalia?

You mean the case where a split second decision to fire one shot resulted in the woman's death? The case where the offending officer, without requiring any mass protests to drive it, got fired, arrested, charged, and jailed?

Think it over, and you tell me why. What might be different about those circumstances? Think hard.

gcomeau wrote:

TFLYTSNBN wrote:



What about violence in other locations?

Here in Oregon, we have become accustomed to avowed ANTIFA rioting in Portland. It is always amusing when the Right Wing Proud Boys also show up to kick ANTIFA ass.

Well at least you're acknowledging those wannabe Nazis are right wing.

As for the other... allow me to propse an idea. If you have a problem with anti-fascists being active in your area, you probably have a FASCIST problem in your area. And one of those is much more important to deal with.

Since we are talking about other types of violence, please explain why there were never any riots to protest the shooting of Justine Damond?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_ ... ine_Damond

Was there no public outcry because she was a white woman and her killer was a black immigrant from Somalia?

You mean the case where a split second decision to fire one shot resulted in the woman's death? The case where the offending officer, without requiring any mass protests to drive it, got fired, arrested, charged, and jailed?

Think it over, and you tell me why. What might be different about those circumstances? Think hard.

You need to extract your cranium from your rectum (or anatomically correct analogues from your home planet) and read the Wikipedia articles.

It took only four days for the Minneapolis police department to arrest George Floyd's killer and fire the other offers at the scene. It took nine months before Justine Damond's murderer was arrested. The Minneapolis police even obtained a search warrant for her apartment to look for drugs and "bodily fluids". There was zero probable cause that she had committed any crime. The only plausible purpose was to wage a war of character assassination against an innocent victim. Did the police seek a search warrant for George Floyd's domicile? There actually was probable cause to search for a printing press and other counterfeiting supplies.

I'm one of those evil bastard that has a permit to carry a gun. I can't imagine how I could rationalize shooting a woman simply because she had startled me. This is especially true in a low threat situation which is what that call was. The two officers were to stupid, lazy and unconcerned to even get out of their patrol car to investigate the alley. Just FYI, the FBI's very detailed records of homicides of police officers don't list any deaths in recent decades (after 1970) resulting from the investigation of a possible rape in progress or arrest of a rape suspect.

Perhaps Officer Noor is a racist who was offended by the sight of a blonde Caucasian woman who was in public wearing only her pajamas rather than a burka as all of his female relatives wear? Perhaps Officer Noor was intimidated by the sight of Ms Damond's large breasts and erect nipples imprinting through the thin fabric of her pajamas?

The Justine Diamond shooting was beyond the pale of reasonable use of force. The shooting and subsequent coverup was no less heinous than kneeling on George Floyd's neck for nine minutes while he was already handcuffed, helpless and no threat to anyone.

Just a comment on this... Apart from what could be seen as an unreasonable time lapsing between the murder and the arrest, it appears that this case was handled exactly as it should have been. Arrest, charges brought, trial, conviction and sentencing... No nonsense, no need to demonstrate.

I do have questions for the MPLS police department, however. What in the dickens were two rookie cops doing out there on either a rape or domestic violence call--either of those could be dangerous in the extreme--without grown up supervision? Both of them could have turned into good cops with proper seasoning.

Finally, we need to get to the point where justice is truly color blind. The race of the perpetrator and the victim shouldn't matter... just impartial justice administered according to the law. Yes, the perpetrators of Floyd's death were arrested quickly. But would that have happened without the demonstrations? I don't believe that. Nor do the demonstrators. Unfortunately there have been a long tail of young unarmed black men dead at the hands of the police without justice which rather solidly reinforces that point of view.

Don

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