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The E wrote:Yes yes yes, I already know you don't believe that institutional racism is a thing.

If there is ‘institutional racism’ in the Minneapolis police department, it was put there by leftist Democrats. That cop was hired by leftist Democrats, trained by leftist Democrats, supervised by leftist Democrats, and worked under rules and policies set by leftist Democrats.

All those ‘White Supremacists’ you see lurking behind every blade of grass must be leftist Democrats, too.

So, this Colin Kaepernick is a football player. No wonder I never heard of him.

A football player is an entertainer, providing a product. A lot of his customers decided that they did not like being called racists, declined to buy his product, and his employers lost a lot of money. That can happen, when somebody insults and grievously offends his own customers. They have every right to take their business elsewhere. It’s called freedom.

‘Freedom’ to express only the opinions that YOU approve, is not freedom. You…will never get that. It’s sad, really.

The E wrote:You know what I find fascinating?

You hate me because I do not play your game. I refuse to plead guilty for things I have never done. You don’t have a conditioned response for that.
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Not everybody should go to college. Some folks, you send 'em to college and you just wind up with an educated idiot.

Yes, Dilandu, you're right. Most totalitarian regimes would not execute someone for something like this...

BUT...

Think further. A totalitarian regime can get rid of its internal opponents without any crime at all... They are just whisked away by the secret police and they disappear. No due process, no accountability, no nothing.

We, on the other hand, are out there in the open, laid bare with all our warts showing for everyone who happens down the pike to sneer at and criticize. In fact the most vociferous critics of America are Americans...

No tell me, who has the best chance for progress and constructive change, a totalitarian regime who shoves its problems under the rug or buries them or a country that has its issues out in the open and is forced to confront them?


I know what I would choose here... Not even a close contest. We are loud. We are boisterous and dynamic. We are often obnoxious. But when we succeed in living up to our ideals, the world cheers. When we fail to live up to our ideals, the world bows its head in sadness and is disappointed. For over 250 years, that has made America a beckon of hope, a place to which the world's poor, oppressed and forgotten yearn to come.

Don

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Imaginos1892 wrote:

The E wrote:Yes yes yes, I already know you don't believe that institutional racism is a thing.

If there is ‘institutional racism’ in the Minneapolis police department, it was put there by leftist Democrats. That cop was hired by leftist Democrats, trained by leftist Democrats, supervised by leftist Democrats, and worked under rules and policies set by leftist Democrats.

Yes... because as we all know the law enforcement community in the United States is notoriously hard core left wing.

gcomeau wrote:Yes... because as we all know the law enforcement community in the United States is notoriously hard core left wing.

How many times do I have to explain this before the information sinks in? THERE IS NO 'the law enforcement community in the United States'!

We have more than 5,000 separate and independent law enforcement agencies administered by the federal government, the 50 state governments, and all the various county, city and town governments spread across a continent only 4% smaller than all of Europe.

The Minneapolis police department has no more connection to the Houston police department than the Paris surete has to the Warsaw policja.

I don't know why so many Eurotrash can't understand that simple fact.
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The Democrats would gladly burn America to the ground, so long as they wind up squatting on top of the ashes.

Imaginos1892 wrote:

gcomeau wrote:Yes... because as we all know the law enforcement community in the United States is notoriously hard core left wing.

How many times do I have to explain this before the information sinks in? THERE IS NO 'the law enforcement community in the United States'!

Except yeah, there is.

We have more than 5,000 separate and independent law enforcement agencies administered by the federal government, the 50 state governments, and all the various county, city and town governments spread across a continent only 4% smaller than all of Europe.

Uh huh... I do live here you know. Nothing you just said was an argument against there being a law enforcement community. You know that ALL communities are comprised of independent individuals entities and organizations right? Not being part of an overarching official integrated command structure doesn't make it not a community.



In other news... Trump just ordered a group of *peaceful* protesters tear gassed so he could get himself a photo op at a church without those pesky protesters messing up his propaganda shot. Holding a bible upside down.

Anyone ever heard the line "When Fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"?

The E wrote:(A twitter thread about how running cars into protests has become an increasingly accepted method of counterprotest amongst US far right idiots)

Couldn't be because the alternative is to get dragged out of their cars and beaten to death, could it? Naw, that's never happened, right? Right?
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Most days, I suspect that we could get a better government by picking 535 people at random. On bad days, I’m certain we’d get a better government by picking 535 people at random from lunatic asylums.

Imaginos1892 wrote:

The E wrote:(A twitter thread about how running cars into protests has become an increasingly accepted method of counterprotest amongst US far right idiots)

Couldn't be because the alternative is to get dragged out of their cars and beaten to death, could it? Naw, that's never happened, right? Right?
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Most days, I suspect that we could get a better government by picking 535 people at random. On bad days, I’m certain we’d get a better government by picking 535 people at random from lunatic asylums.

Aye. Just ask Rodney King.

More on Trump ordering peaceful protesters attacked for his propaganda shoot... looks like he sent the riot police in to run priests out of their own church so he could use it as a prop.

Accounts from the priests in question in the thread, collected by a reporter for Religion News Service:

https://twitter.com/jackmjenkins/status ... 64641?s=19

The E wrote:Hey, Imaginos, here's something you will approve of: https://twitter.com/AriWeil/status/1267271819817480193

(A twitter thread about how running cars into protests has become an increasingly accepted method of counterprotest amongst US far right idiots)

And what's most ironic, is that one of drivers who tried to run protesters over with a truck was an Ukrainean "hero of anti-terror operation in Donetsk". Yeah, a good "fighter against Russian invasion" he was! Maybe it's time for Americans to realize, that there is no such things as "good Nazi", even if they claim to be against Russians...

Imaginos1892 wrote:So, this Colin Kaepernick is a football player. No wonder I never heard of him.

A football player is an entertainer, providing a product. A lot of his customers decided that they did not like being called racists, declined to buy his product, and his employers lost a lot of money. That can happen, when somebody insults and grievously offends his own customers. They have every right to take their business elsewhere. It’s called freedom.

He kneeled when the national anthem was played. That's pretty much it. He said at the time:

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder"

For that little expression of dissent, of criticism, his career as an athlete was killed. There were months of angry comments about his "disrespectful" behaviour all over the right wing news.

There's a pretty clear correlation between Black America pointing out that a problem exists and White America bringing overwhelming force to bear to suppress it.

‘Freedom’ to express only the opinions that YOU approve, is not freedom. You…will never get that. It’s sad, really.

I would say that I get it more than you do. For example, you seem to believe that an NFL quarterback should not express his political opinions, or use what little platform he has to express them.

You hate me because I do not play your game. I refuse to plead guilty for things I have never done. You don’t have a conditioned response for that.

And yet, you've done the exact thing I've described right here. You were completely ignorant of what I was talking about until I pointed out to you that there's more to find; It's a trap you keep walking into, because I know that when you see one of my posts, whatever critical faculties you have get thrown out the window.

I mean, it's interesting to me that you drop the entire explanation of what "policing by consent" is without commenting on it further. Almost as if you do not wish to ackknowledge faults