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Re: Iconic Bookstore Burned Down In Riots
Post by The E   » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:35 am

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Imaginos1892 wrote:No, this didn’t come out of nowhere; these leftist rent-a-riots have been escalating for years, with the SAME RIOTERS showing up in cities hundreds of miles apart. The really interesting thing is, ALL of the supposed ‘triggering events’ have taken place in left-wing cities. Saint Louis. Baltimore. Los Angeles. New York. And now, Minneapolis.

The Governor of Minnesota is a leftist Democrat. The Minnesota Attorney General is a leftist Democrat. The Mayor of Minneapolis is a leftist Democrat. Twelve Minneapolis City Council members are leftist Democrats, and the thirteenth one is a leftist Green.

If there is any remaining vestige of that ‘long and sordid history of institutionalized racism’ you constantly screech about, it is an exclusive and jealously guarded property of The Left.

Of course, that would be no surprise to anyone the least bit familiar with U.S. history. The Democrats have always been the racist party. It was founded on racism 170 years ago, and has perpetuated racism ever since. Thirty years ago, under the Republicans, racism was well on its way to quietly dying out. Ever since the Democrats regained power they have been straining to bring it back, as big and nasty as they can make it. RAAAACISSSM!! is trumpeted everywhere, pushed by the Democrats.

So far, the left-wing rioters you admire have murdered at least 3 people. The ‘white idiots with guns’ did not threaten, attack or kill anybody, did not burn down cities, or wreck people’s livelihoods. So much for your bleatings about the importance of life, you sanctimonious sack of shit.


Yes yes yes, I already know you don't believe that institutional racism is a thing.

The E wrote:policing by consent

You expect criminals to consent to being arrested for their crimes? What HAVE you been smoking?


You know what I find fascinating? How predictable you are. You see, there's a pretty clear pattern in your responses to my posts: Whenever I use some shorthand that is commonly known within at least some circles, you are so incurious and desperate to dunk on me that you make yourself look like an idiot by completely misunderstanding what the referenced concept is.
In this case, "policing by consent" is a reference to what is also called the Peelian principles (that page being one of the top entries if you google "policing by consent", incidentally); a set of philosophies and guidelines for ethical policework developed in the 1820s. These principles are, partially or fully, cornerstones of modern policing nearly everywhere; Details may differ, but I think there are some fundamental truths about what the relationship between the police force and the populace needs to be in order for police to be effective in a modern democracy in there.

So, Imaginos: if you encounter something nonsensical or that you do not know (like "policing by consent" or Colin Kaepernick) it is perfectly okay to Google first and post later. Just imagine how much less of an idiot you will appear to be!
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Re: Iconic Bookstore Burned Down In Riots
Post by Daryl   » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:40 am

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As I said on another topic, there seems to be several groups here.
Far too simplistic to say it was "leftist" or "rightist" protesters.
As the riots progress, many (seen from afar) seem to be just gangsters and thieves stealing stuff. Reminiscent of early Dylan lyrics " If you ain't got nothin, you've got nothin to lose".
We have had demonstrations here in support of your "Black Lives Matter", peaceful respectable people. Somewhat staid middle class from all races.
What I found informative was the transcript of the emergency number call (911, 999, 000, whatever). The Dispatcher kept asking what race the alleged perpetrator was. Weird to us, why was that of any importance at all?
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Re: Iconic Bookstore Burned Down In Riots
Post by The E   » Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:54 am

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Hey, Imaginos, here's something you will approve of: https://twitter.com/AriWeil/status/1267271819817480193

(A twitter thread about how running cars into protests has become an increasingly accepted method of counterprotest amongst US far right idiots)
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Re: Iconic Bookstore Burned Down In Riots
Post by Dilandu   » Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:24 am

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Eyal wrote:
1) The crime Floyd was suspected of was passing a counterfeit $20.
2) There's no evidence he was resisting arrest initially, per the videos of the arrest.
3) He certainly wasn't resisting arrest for the 8 minutes he was lying cuffed on the ground with a police officer choking him.

It's indeed the job of the police to arrest people, but this was just short of an outright execution.


Yeah, the exact cost of human life in Shining City Atop A Hill; $20. Not to mention, that it is unclear, did Floyd actually knew that the bill was counterfeit. He may be duped himself by someone else.
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Re: Iconic Bookstore Burned Down In Riots
Post by Daryl   » Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:56 am

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A minor aside and not to hijack this thread, but what is it about the US currency?
Just about every developed country has elaborate notes with multiple anti counterfeiting features. Ours have see through panels, holograms, metal threads and more. Yet the US currency I have used looks like any photocopier could easily duplicate it.
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Re: Iconic Bookstore Burned Down In Riots
Post by cthia   » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:18 am

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Imaginos1892 wrote:
May 29 2020: Independent book store Uncle Hugo’s, a prominent fixture of the science fiction, fantasy and mystery community for the last 45 years, was burned to the ground by looters and arsonists. Among the thousands of books reduced to ashes were many rare and irreplaceable volumes, including First Editions signed by authors no longer living. We have all lost a priceless resource, and what should have been an enduring legacy is now a pile of scorched bricks.

What the fuck is WRONG with those shitheads? What did burning down Uncle Hugo’s have to do with ANYTHING?!?

But that is what those dumbshits do — burn what they lack the capacity to understand or appreciate. I suppose it's because their union-run government schools never taught them to read. They certainly never learned to value reading. Bookstores and libraries mean nothing to them. Nor do restaurants, workshops, houses or lives.

The left-wing media calls them ‘civil rights protesters’. Everybody with a functioning brain calls them what they are: violent rioting mobs seeded with paid instigators shipped in from hundreds of miles away. Why did the violence ramp up after 3 days? That’s how long it took to get the instigators in place.

What are they ‘protesting’, you might ask? A criminal fought the police, and lost. That’s it. In fact, that has been the cause of…pretty much every riot I can remember. “A criminal was hurt or died after fighting with the police! Burn down the city!”

Police are SUPPOSED to arrest criminals. If they resist arrest, they MUST be subdued. That can get as violent as the criminal wants to make it. If the police DON’T arrest and subdue criminals, civilization falls apart.
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In this world there are people who build things up, and those that burn them down. I have zero regard for the second group.

Yet, any asshole of any color should realize that nobody can read while dead. Priorities.

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Re: Iconic Bookstore Burned Down In Riots
Post by n7axw   » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:28 am

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Dilandu wrote:
Eyal wrote:
1) The crime Floyd was suspected of was passing a counterfeit $20.
2) There's no evidence he was resisting arrest initially, per the videos of the arrest.
3) He certainly wasn't resisting arrest for the 8 minutes he was lying cuffed on the ground with a police officer choking him.

It's indeed the job of the police to arrest people, but this was just short of an outright execution.


Yeah, the exact cost of human life in Shining City Atop A Hill; $20. Not to mention, that it is unclear, did Floyd actually knew that the bill was counterfeit. He may be duped himself by someone else.


Yep. Or was Floyd even the one who passed the counterfeit bill, or was it someone of similar appearance and mistaken identity? We'll probably never know.

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Re: Iconic Bookstore Burned Down In Riots
Post by n7axw   » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:42 am

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Daryl wrote:A minor aside and not to hijack this thread, but what is it about the US currency?
Just about every developed country has elaborate notes with multiple anti counterfeiting features. Ours have see through panels, holograms, metal threads and more. Yet the US currency I have used looks like any photocopier could easily duplicate it.


It's made with a certain kind of paper with fibers that are very hard to duplicate. Many stores and banks have marking pencils to run over the bill. Unless it comes up the right color, It's counterfeit. I am unaware of what other precautions might be taken

It certainly would be easy both to take and spend a counterfeit bill. I know I don't think about it.

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Re: Iconic Bookstore Burned Down In Riots
Post by Dilandu   » Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:28 am

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n7axw wrote:
Yep. Or was Floyd even the one who passed the counterfeit bill, or was it someone of similar appearance and mistaken identity? We'll probably never know.

Don

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Thing is, it doesn't matter. Human was slowly, painfully murdered over $20 bill. Most totalitarian regimes would NOT execute someone over such small crime.
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Re: Iconic Bookstore Burned Down In Riots
Post by cthia   » Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:23 pm

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Dilandu wrote:
n7axw wrote:
Yep. Or was Floyd even the one who passed the counterfeit bill, or was it someone of similar appearance and mistaken identity? We'll probably never know.

Don

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Thing is, it doesn't matter. Human was slowly, painfully murdered over $20 bill. Most totalitarian regimes would NOT execute someone over such small crime.

Nor did America execute George Floyd for such a small crime.

They executed him for "being black while operating a counterfeit $20 bill." Which reduces to execution for being black. The counterfeit bill is simply the excuse. Any excuse will do.

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