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Re: Where next for our younger hero's and Heroins?
Post by Galactic Sapper   » Tue May 12, 2020 1:38 pm

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Captain Golding wrote:Paulo and Helen.

So Helen is given a command of a LAC in the Squadron attached to the Charles Ward. Paulo is still working Engineering for the ship.

Is that a 119 violation issue?

What would the 8 LAC squadron structure look like? Where would a Lt (JG) fit. I am not sure if every LAC has an Officer i/c or if some have a WO in charge.

I don't believe that would be a violation, although the more senior the officers get the closer to a violation it is. While they're on the same ship they're not technically in the same chain of command; the lowest officers they'd both report to would be the Captain/XO of the ship and if that were considered a violation it would be an effective ban on all shipboard relationships, which we know not to be true.

I imagine the rules get a bit more nit-picky the higher one goes in the ship's command structure. The degree of separation between a junior engineering officer and a LAC CO is significantly more than that between the chief engineer and the COLAC, for instance. There's more layers of reporting to insulate the two from ever being in a position where one might report to the other (due to casualties, for example).
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Re: Where next for our younger hero's and Heroins?
Post by tlb   » Tue May 12, 2020 2:22 pm

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Galactic Sapper wrote:I don't believe that would be a violation, although the more senior the officers get the closer to a violation it is. While they're on the same ship they're not technically in the same chain of command; the lowest officers they'd both report to would be the Captain/XO of the ship and if that were considered a violation it would be an effective ban on all shipboard relationships, which we know not to be true.

What is your example for that? Paulo and Helen were not in a romantic relationship on the Hexapuma.
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Re: Where next for our younger hero's and Heroins?
Post by Captain Golding   » Tue May 12, 2020 3:09 pm

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Not on Hexapuma true but after it's destroyed they re-establish contact so by the time of "Shadow of Victory" most certainly. Helen is acting as a Flag Lt. wile an Ensign while Pablo is on the Charles Ward's engineering team. They eventually find a room on Manitoba iirc.
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Re: Where next for our younger hero's and Heroins?
Post by tlb   » Tue May 12, 2020 4:50 pm

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Captain Golding wrote:Not on Hexapuma true but after it's destroyed they re-establish contact so by the time of "Shadow of Victory" most certainly. Helen is acting as a Flag Lt. wile an Ensign while Pablo is on the Charles Ward's engineering team. They eventually find a room on Manitoba iirc.

The only other case that I can think of is the Captain of Angrim at the Battle of Hypatia had a boyfriend on one of the ships that got pounded. At this lower level, is likely that a couple is okay if they are not serving on the same ship. But the point is that you were talking about "shipboard relationships" in the quote above.
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Re: Where next for our younger hero's and Heroins?
Post by Galactic Sapper   » Tue May 12, 2020 6:24 pm

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tlb wrote:
Galactic Sapper wrote:I don't believe that would be a violation, although the more senior the officers get the closer to a violation it is. While they're on the same ship they're not technically in the same chain of command; the lowest officers they'd both report to would be the Captain/XO of the ship and if that were considered a violation it would be an effective ban on all shipboard relationships, which we know not to be true.

What is your example for that? Paulo and Helen were not in a romantic relationship on the Hexapuma.

Scotty Tremaine and Carolyn Wolcott (?) on Fearless in HotQ.
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Re: Where next for our younger hero's and Heroins?
Post by tlb   » Tue May 12, 2020 6:54 pm

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Galactic Sapper wrote:I don't believe that would be a violation, although the more senior the officers get the closer to a violation it is. While they're on the same ship they're not technically in the same chain of command; the lowest officers they'd both report to would be the Captain/XO of the ship and if that were considered a violation it would be an effective ban on all shipboard relationships, which we know not to be true.

tlb wrote:What is your example for that? Paulo and Helen were not in a romantic relationship on the Hexapuma.

Galactic Sapper wrote:Scotty Tremaine and Carolyn Wolcott (?) on Fearless in HotQ.

The only interaction that I can find between those two is in chapter 10, when she needed to talk to someone who was at Basilisk to ask if Honor had run away.
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Re: Where next for our younger hero's and Heroins?
Post by BrightSoul   » Tue May 12, 2020 8:59 pm

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tlb wrote:The only interaction that I can find between those two is in chapter 10, when she needed to talk to someone who was at Basilisk to ask if Honor had run away.


I believe it was during Honor Among Enemies when they were getting closer to something. Unfortunately she died aboard Wayfarer.
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Re: Where next for our younger hero's and Heroins?
Post by fallsfromtrees   » Tue May 12, 2020 9:10 pm

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Alright - I know David's writing is addictive, but I see no reason for refer to the female protagonists as drugs, instead of heroines - the feminine version of hero.

This has been bugging me since the beginning - and yes it probably should be in the punctuation thread.
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Re: Where next for our younger hero's and Heroins?
Post by tlb   » Tue May 12, 2020 9:23 pm

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fallsfromtrees wrote:Alright - I know David's writing is addictive, but I see no reason for refer to the female protagonists as drugs, instead of heroines - the feminine version of hero.

This has been bugging me since the beginning - and yes it probably should be in the punctuation thread.

In the past I have asked to have a spelling error fixed in a thread title, but Duckk said "no". I am not sure whether that was because of a refusal or an inability to do it.
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Re: Where next for our younger heroes and heroines?
Post by fallsfromtrees   » Tue May 12, 2020 9:35 pm

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tlb wrote:
fallsfromtrees wrote:Alright - I know David's writing is addictive, but I see no reason for refer to the female protagonists as drugs, instead of heroines - the feminine version of hero.

This has been bugging me since the beginning - and yes it probably should be in the punctuation thread.

In the past I have asked to have a spelling error fixed in a thread title, but Duckk said "no". I am not sure whether that was because of a refusal or an inability to do it.


Actually, although the previous posts can't be changed, the later ones can.
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