Time to read THE LAST CENTURION?

TFLYTSNBN wrote:

Daryl wrote:So Fly, you are suggesting that "China and certain European countries", may have deliberately set up tens of thousands of their citizens to die horribly in order to target the US in general, and Trump specifically?
Whatever medication you should be taking needs revision.

Nope.

I am suggesting that after they screwed themselves which resulted in tens of thousands of their own citizens dying horrible deaths which is screwing their economies, China along with certain European countries countries, aided and abetted by the World Health Organization, concealed the severity of their epidemics to ensure that the United States would also suffer from the pandemic.

BTW, there is growing evidence that this virus originated in a Chinese biological lab. However; the development was the result of research on an AIDS vaccine rather than biological weapons. Dr Fauci is implicated in this research which might explain why he initially assured people that it wasn't a threat.

If my eyes roll any further back in my head my optic nerve is in danger of severing.

TFLYTSNBN wrote:

Daryl wrote:So Fly, you are suggesting that "China and certain European countries", may have deliberately set up tens of thousands of their citizens to die horribly in order to target the US in general, and Trump specifically?
Whatever medication you should be taking needs revision.

Nope.

I am suggesting that after they screwed themselves which resulted in tens of thousands of their own citizens dying horrible deaths which is screwing their economies, China along with certain European countries countries, aided and abetted by the World Health Organization, concealed the severity of their epidemics to ensure that the United States would also suffer from the pandemic.

BTW, there is growing evidence that this virus originated in a Chinese biological lab. However; the development was the result of research on an AIDS vaccine rather than biological weapons. Dr Fauci is implicated in this research which might explain why he initially assured people that it wasn't a threat.

Not really likely. TFLY, you are squirting out bs and trying to pass it off as sirloin steak.

Here is a more likely scenario. The virus originated with bats being sold in a wet market in China. The thing infected humans and began to spread. It was bad news that the government initially ignored. Then given that China is a shame culture, they covered it up to avoid embarrassment until it got so bad they had to come out into the open.

See... an explanation without all the conspiratorial nonsense.

Don

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I wonder if that "growing evidence" he's referring to is just a metaphor for some psychoactive mold that's growing in his home's walls....

n7axw wrote:
Here is a more likely scenario. The virus originated with bats being sold in a wet market in China. The thing infected humans and began to spread. It was bad news that the government initially ignored. Then given that China is a shame culture, they covered it up to avoid embarrassment until it got so bad they had to come out into the open.

See... an explanation without all the conspiratorial nonsense.


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To be exact, the SARS-COV-2 closest known relative is RaTG13, which is bat virus. Scientists still thought that there may be some intermediate hosts between bats and humans.

The E wrote:I wonder if that "growing evidence" he's referring to is just a metaphor for some psychoactive mold that's growing in his home's walls....

Keep whistling in the grave yard. You will deny any truth that conflicts with your liberal, anti-American bias. This certainly demonstrates why Trump should withdraw from NATO as well as WHO.

TFLYTSNBN wrote:
I am suggesting that after they screwed themselves which resulted in tens of thousands of their own citizens dying horrible deaths which is screwing their economies, China along with certain European countries countries, aided and abetted by the World Health Organization, concealed the severity of their epidemics to ensure that the United States would also suffer from the pandemic.

This simply does not make any sense. The USA is major payer for WHO; for what possible reason WHO may want to harm the one, who gave them most of their money?

For other countries such kind of conspiracy also is senseless; firstly, they would have no ability to predict how hard the USA would be hit. Secondly, since they have no ability to predict how hard the USA would be hit, they could not predict either would it be for their favor, or not. Thirdly, problems in USA essentially make European pandemic worse; now USA is desperately devouring the medical help and supplies that otherwise would be used to fight the pandemic in Europe. Fourthly, the pandemic in USA (as well as in Russia) would likely be prolonged in time due to sheer size of those countries, which means that diseased rednecks would be a constant source of problems for Europe for quite a long time.

Sorry, but you could not make a conspiracy theory starting with the contradiction that conspirators are smart enough to devise such plan, but dumb enough to not think about obvious consequences. Chose something; either conspirators are smart (then why they did not think about it?), or they are dumb (and how they managed to conspire then?)

TFLYTSNBN wrote:Keep whistling in the grave yard. You will deny any truth that conflicts with your liberal, anti-American bias. This certainly demonstrates why Trump should withdraw from NATO as well as WHO.

Well, since USA essentially demonstrated that it did not want to have responsibility for ruling the world anymore, then it obvious that the American empire already collapsing. Not exactly a good thing, considering that China are here to fill the void - and with all disadvantages & incompetence of American leadership, China-dominated world would hardly be any better (probably worse).

Still, it's natural. Empires stand only as long as they grow. When the expansion is stopped, then the "golden age" follow (during which the resources are still abundant, but now they are mostly used internally, not externally), and then inevitable decline and collapse. Well, coronavirus at least made collapse of American empire went relatively peacefully...

Dilandu wrote:

TFLYTSNBN wrote:Keep whistling in the grave yard. You will deny any truth that conflicts with your liberal, anti-American bias. This certainly demonstrates why Trump should withdraw from NATO as well as WHO.

Well, since USA essentially demonstrated that it did not want to have responsibility for ruling the world anymore, then it obvious that the American empire already collapsing. Not exactly a good thing, considering that China are here to fill the void - and with all disadvantages & incompetence of American leadership, China-dominated world would hardly be any better (probably worse).

Still, it's natural. Empires stand only as long as they grow. When the expansion is stopped, then the "golden age" follow (during which the resources are still abundant, but now they are mostly used internally, not externally), and then inevitable decline and collapse. Well, coronavirus at least made collapse of American empire went relatively peacefully...

When "Empires" collapse, chaos reigns. Populations decline massively. Just look at the Roman Empire. Aztec, Inca, Mongol and others the same. Collapse equals massive death. USA actually has a motive to encourage anarchy and war amongst the barbarians. Russia is still imploding from the collapse of the Soviet Empire. Now you have a plague simultaneously with your oil revenues imploding. If Russia cuts oil production to deeply, your Wells freeze solid. It will take you years to redrill your Wells and bring oil production back on line.

TFLYTSNBN wrote:When "Empires" collapse, chaos reigns. Populations decline massively.

And once again, English Pride compels me to note that the British Empire, the largest Empire in history and one that was run with a massive numerical imbalance between the British and the rest (seriously, entire regions were effectively run by only a score of Brits or less), recognized when it was heading towards the buffers and after putting down several uprisings, carefully dissolved itself while seeking to ensure that its former regions were able to remain stable.
Seriously, look at the former British colonies against those of Spain and France. The former British colonies are overwhelmingly civilized, generally keeping to the rule of law (with maybe one or two exceptions*). The majority of the Spanish and French colonies have to rely on Force of Arms to remain intact, assuming that they're not having yet another insurrection/civil war.
Some argue that the British Empire still exists under the name British Commonwealth, but they're mistaken. The UK doesn't rule over the Commonwealth, we're just another (albeit somewhat respected) member.

I don't think that the American Empire is collapsing because America never actually had an Empire. Instead, it had the Pax Americana, aka "Don't make us come over there and wave our guns at you".


*One example - America is a former colony (or group of colonies) and it had a civil war.

TFLYTSNBN wrote:Keep whistling in the grave yard. You will deny any truth that conflicts with your liberal, anti-American bias. This certainly demonstrates why Trump should withdraw from NATO as well as WHO.

If you told me that B followed A in the english alphabet, I would check back with some linguists to make sure of it. I've seen you lie, misrepresent and be flat out wrong on so many topics on so many occasions that I do not trust a single thing you say; If someone were to ask you where you've seen that "growing evidence" of yours, what are the chances that it's some fringe conspiracy theory source that has fundamentally misunderstood some fairly basic science?