Time to read THE LAST CENTURION?

gcomeau wrote:

Daryl wrote:Perhaps it's the time lapse, but I wonder why our newspapers are reporting a speech made by Trump, where he talks about "The genius germ outwitting the antibiotics". Yet I couldn't find a mention of this in the US papers?
As I'm sure all of you know, no antibiotic is effective against any virus.

Not a time lapse, he said it in his press conference yesterday.

Yesterday.

Months into a pandemic he holds daily public briefings on and nobody has been able to teach him antibiotics aren't antivirals yet... while he runs around making absurd claims about how doctors tell him they're amazed how much he knows about this stuff.

Watching the news... Those briefings are starting to hurt him rather than help him... His support is down to about 42-44% that means that It's down to his groupies who would follow him over a cliff no matter what he does.

Don

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:The claim that the lethality rate in Germany is extremely low because they have socialized medicine is extremely suspicious. Germany's alleged death rate is an extreme aberration when compared to other European countries that also have socialized medicine. Given the fact that most Coronavirus related deaths are actually the result of complications such as pneumonia, it is reasonable to speculate that the German government is misstating the cause of death for political purposes. It appears that Germany's strategy is to achieve herd immunity by allowing the virus to spread. To achieve herd immunity, about 70% of the population needs to be infected. The PC meme that only 1% of the population, mostly elderly who just cost society money and would likely die from something else anyway, will make this strategy politically acceptable. When the German people finally realize that the true lethality rate is at least 5% and that many people in their 40s, 50s and 60s who remain productive are among the dead, they are not going to be happy about their government enabling 3.5% of the population to die.

Found something interesting regarding this ridiculous gem.

There's actually a map depicting ICU bed usage in Germany:

https://interaktiv.morgenpost.de/corona ... uslastung/

According to this we got at least 20k beds atm (only 87% of all hospitals are reporting capacities), 60% are in use, and 12.5% are used by COVID-19 victims.

I'm wondering where all these hidden deaths are, then.

Of course the map might be faked by the government as well. And all the tens of thousands of ICU staff are in on the conspiracy as well since they don't blab about conditions similar to Italy, Spain or New York either.

clancy688 wrote:

TFLYTSNBN wrote:The claim that the lethality rate in Germany is extremely low because they have socialized medicine is extremely suspicious. Germany's alleged death rate is an extreme aberration when compared to other European countries that also have socialized medicine. Given the fact that most Coronavirus related deaths are actually the result of complications such as pneumonia, it is reasonable to speculate that the German government is misstating the cause of death for political purposes. It appears that Germany's strategy is to achieve herd immunity by allowing the virus to spread. To achieve herd immunity, about 70% of the population needs to be infected. The PC meme that only 1% of the population, mostly elderly who just cost society money and would likely die from something else anyway, will make this strategy politically acceptable. When the German people finally realize that the true lethality rate is at least 5% and that many people in their 40s, 50s and 60s who remain productive are among the dead, they are not going to be happy about their government enabling 3.5% of the population to die.

Found something interesting regarding this ridiculous gem.

There's actually a map depicting ICU bed usage in Germany:

https://interaktiv.morgenpost.de/corona ... uslastung/

According to this we got at least 20k beds atm (only 87% of all hospitals are reporting capacities), 60% are in use, and 12.5% are used by COVID-19 victims.

I'm wondering where all these hidden deaths are, then.

Of course the map might be faked by the government as well. And all the tens of thousands of ICU staff are in on the conspiracy as well since they don't blab about conditions similar to Italy, Spain or New York either.

The first thing that came to my head when I looked at that map was, whoops, Germany got the measles...

Don

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Supposedly, several US states have had to resort to smuggling in N95 masks etc because the Federal guvernment is stealing them.

As for where the stolen stuff is ending up, lets just say the best reported destinations are slightly illegal.

The governmental authorities here in Denmark have decided to attempt a very gradual step that can be seen as a return to some form of normalcy. They base the attempt on the fact that the number of new cases of Covid 19 has declined over the last week, and they feel that they have the capacity to handle any upsurge that might occur.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... n-denmark/

As a first “baby-step” (no pun intended!) they have decided to re-open nursery schools, kindergartens, daycare institutions and school classes up the 5th. grade as of Wednesday after Easter (April 15,) under very stringent conditions.
Conditions that include that the children are to be outdoors as much as possible,; including lessons and when indoors that the social distancing be maintained, that handwashing is enforced on both staff and children every two hours , that the smaller ages be encouraged to form smaller play groups, that the indoors localities be subjected to extra cleaning.
The Department of Health has instructed the local district councils to certify that the institutions live up to the given instructions, and as of today around 80% of them report that they are ready, the remainder will need another week to be up to specs.
As could be expected a number of parents are uneasy about this initiative, that their children are to used as guinea pigs so to say; something that the authorities has vehemently denied.
My own layman’s impression is that they are being used as a test, but that it’s predicated upon the fact that for some reason; reasons that experts the world over are still unclear about, that children when they are infected do not suffer the same drastic symptoms. Also that Denmark with its small size and population and its single; now closed land border to Germany, is easy to isolate.
But it is sure to be an attempt that will be watched eagerly by other countries around the world.

Arol wrote:The governmental authorities here in Denmark have decided to attempt a very gradual step that can be seen as a return to some form of normalcy. They base the attempt on the fact that the number of new cases of Covid 19 has declined over the last week, and they feel that they have the capacity to handle any upsurge that might occur.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... n-denmark/

As a first “baby-step” (no pun intended!) they have decided to re-open nursery schools, kindergartens, daycare institutions and school classes up the 5th. grade as of Wednesday after Easter (April 15,) under very stringent conditions.
Conditions that include that the children are to be outdoors as much as possible,; including lessons and when indoors that the social distancing be maintained, that handwashing is enforced on both staff and children every two hours , that the smaller ages be encouraged to form smaller play groups, that the indoors localities be subjected to extra cleaning.
The Department of Health has instructed the local district councils to certify that the institutions live up to the given instructions, and as of today around 80% of them report that they are ready, the remainder will need another week to be up to specs.
As could be expected a number of parents are uneasy about this initiative, that their children are to used as guinea pigs so to say; something that the authorities has vehemently denied.
My own layman’s impression is that they are being used as a test, but that it’s predicated upon the fact that for some reason; reasons that experts the world over are still unclear about, that children when they are infected do not suffer the same drastic symptoms. Also that Denmark with its small size and population and its single; now closed land border to Germany, is easy to isolate.
But it is sure to be an attempt that will be watched eagerly by other countries around the world.

The key to opening up is adequate supplies for testing. If you can identify the positives, the negatives can be let out to resume their normal routines. Short of something like that, I think my kids (if I had them) stay home.

Don

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Annachie wrote:Supposedly, several US states have had to resort to smuggling in N95 masks etc because the Federal guvernment is stealing them.

As for where the stolen stuff is ending up, lets just say the best reported destinations are slightly illegal.

Another item, slightly dated.... You know that anti malarial drug Trump has been pushing...

Well guess who has an interest in the company manufacturing the drugs... What a guy, got it all figured out...he gets to make a buck and be a hero all at the same time!

Don

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n7axw wrote:
The key to opening up is adequate supplies for testing. If you can identify the positives, the negatives can be let out to resume their normal routines. Short of something like that, I think my kids (if I had them) stay home.
Don-

Mirror some of my own concerns.
Also even if the kids do contract the virus, and have mild symptoms, what about when they return home and to Mum and Dad? The thought of sticking the kids in isolation separate from family, kind’a sticks in my craw.

Trump only has a small stake in that french company, Sanofil(?), but he might have a bigger piece of other companies that make it.

However, a major donor and supporter is the second or third largest share holder.

Annachie wrote:Trump only has a small stake in that french company, Sanofil(?), but he might have a bigger piece of other companies that make it.

However, a major donor and supporter is the second or third largest share holder.

It isn't just the money. It is also the principle of the thing. What it points out is that a lot of things that were established by custom and tradition will in the future have to be established in the future by force of law. I hope we come with a Congress and president to make that happen.

Don

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