Impeachment now certain

Here is the best question of the impeachment trial:

"“Are you aware that House intelligence committee staffer Shawn Misko had a close relationship with Eric Ciaramella while at the National Security Council together; and are you aware -and how do you respond to- reports that Ciaramella and Misko may have worked together to plot impeaching the President before there were formal house impeachment proceedings?“

Chief Justice Roberts refused to read the question, allegedly because it identifies the anonymous "whistle blower.". Democrats was the cock sucker's, excuse me "whistle blower's" identify concealed. This is allegedly to protect Monica Lewinsky's disciple from retribution. However; once their identify is confirmed, it can then be proven that they were plotting to impeach President Trump during the fist meeting of National Security Council staff after his inauguration.

Excellent discussion of Senator Paul's question, background and implications. Ask yourself why the video is already being scrubbed from the internet.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... onference/

Now view the Biden video.

https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY

Are you aware Fly that the whistleblowers identity is immaterial once thr complaint has been shown to be credible, as this was?

Are you aware that the wistleblowers identity is kept secret to protect them from the exact sort of retribution that is being threatened?

Are you aware that if the whistleblower was not found to be credible in the first instance they would then actually have their motives questioned?

The whistleblower themself was made irrelevent the moment that their complaint was found to be credible, and that this constant pushing of stupid, irrelevent theories proves to anybody with a brain that you, along with the majority of Trump's supporters and the GOP, know THAT Trump is guilty and just don't care.

Latest defence in the US Senate I've seen in our media, basically comes down to.
The President's role is to do the best for his country. Trump is the best to do this. Thus anything that keeps Trump in power is for the greater good, thus should be excused.

This is not some third world dictatorship, or is it?

Actually, the President can under treaties with both Countries. As long as the treaties are in affect he has the power to do that because approved and ratified Treaties supersede US Law. I have had this same discussion before with Gcomeau and that ended badly for him then too! Perhaps their is alternate reason that I keep harping on this point. Those birds love the bread crumbs! Where do the bread crumbs lead? To whom do the bread crumbs lead to? Why? Who does this expose? (Many people on different levels perhaps?!)

Annachie wrote:

gcomeau wrote:
No, actually he isn't. Soliciting foreign interference in US elections is illegal and using his office to do it is an abuse of power.

Specifically:

52 USC 30121 a 2

You've not actually read the treaty have you?

I'll give you a hint. There's a reason that they are so strongly pushing the stupid "If Trump thinks his re-election is in the best interest of thr country" bull shit.


Second hint, the person he sent to try and arrange shit was a personal lawyer with no White House affiliation.

It's because the treaty doesn't aply to Donald Trump, Presidential candidate, as the request was purely personal, as evidenced by all the non executive type staff involved in it.

Use of the Presidential office to do so is blatand abuse of office, which is a "High Crime and Misdemeaner" as understood by the people who wrote the bloody phrase into the US Constitution.

Annachie wrote:Are you aware Fly that the whistleblowers identity is immaterial once thr complaint has been shown to be credible, as this was?

Are you aware that the wistleblowers identity is kept secret to protect them from the exact sort of retribution that is being threatened?

Are you aware that if the whistleblower was not found to be credible in the first instance they would then actually have their motives questioned?

The whistleblower themself was made irrelevent the moment that their complaint was found to be credible, and that this constant pushing of stupid, irrelevent theories proves to anybody with a brain that you, along with the majority of Trump's supporters and the GOP, know THAT Trump is guilty and just don't care.

Your problem is that the transcript of the phone call does NOT substantiate the allegation. All we have is a bunch of pencil pricks like Vindman defacting in their panties because they presume that President Trump was pressuring Ukraine for his political benefit. Contrast this to Vice President Biden bragging about pressuring Ukraine to fire the prosecutor that was investigating the corrupt gas company that had given his drug addicted son a seat on the board of directors at over $80,000 per MONTH! Your alleged ethical standards are so hypocritical that it makes my head spin.

PS, I just can't wait for Monday's Democrat debate.

Firstly, it damn near does as it is.

Secondly, it's not a transcript.

Thirdly, we've seen at least two versions of it and are yet to see the full transcript.

Fourthly, the allegation is well and truely supported by witnesses.

Fifthly, and in directly, the allegation is well and truely supported by all the effort taken to cover it up. After all if it was all legal and above board Trump would have followed procedure.

TFLYTSNBN wrote:Here is the best question of the impeachment trial:

"“Are you aware that House intelligence committee staffer Shawn Misko had a close relationship with Eric Ciaramella while at the National Security Council together; and are you aware -and how do you respond to- reports that Ciaramella and Misko may have worked together to plot impeaching the President before there were formal house impeachment proceedings?“

Chief Justice Roberts refused to read the question, allegedly because it identifies the anonymous "whistle blower.". Democrats was the cock sucker's, excuse me "whistle blower's" identify concealed.

Actually, the law REQUIRES a whistleblower be allowed to remain anonymous to protect then from retribution by whoever they are turning in. since generally you blow the whistle on someone up the chain from you in the power structure. If they're below you you can deal with it yourself now can't you?

Which is why the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court refused to read the question you clueless wonder. Because it was an attempt to commit an illegal fucking act and if he read it he would have been complicit in it. Or do you think John Roberts is teaming up with the evil Democrats in some conspiracy against poor innocent Trump too?

This is allegedly to protect Monica Lewinsky's disciple from retribution. However; once their identify is confirmed, it can then be proven that they were plotting to impeach President Trump during the fist meeting of National Security Council staff after his inauguration.

Oh ffs.

You know what TFLY, let's say for the sake of argument that your little conspiracy theory is even TRUE. Every word you just said.

IT. DOESN'T. FUCKING. MATTER.

Because the Inspector General confirmed the damn complaint, and every bit of evidence has confirmed the damn complaint, and Trump has admitted to the damn behavior described in the complaint.

Your whining here is the equivalent of someone turning in an arsonist and you whinging that "oh no fair, they thought that guy was an arsonist for years and they just kept watching and waiting for him to light a fire so they could turn him in!!!"

Ok... SO???? He was still a freaking arsonist lighting fires!

Excellent discussion of Senator Paul's question, background and implications. Ask yourself why the video is already being scrubbed from the internet.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... onference/

Now view the Biden video.

https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY

We've all viewed the freaking Biden video. In which he is justifiably proudly talking about his role in pushing for the removal of a prosecutor who was NOT prosecuting corruption. (And who was also NOT investigating Burisma or Hunter Biden.) And who both Democrats AND Republicans wanted out at the time as part of the anti-corruption push in Ukraine.

It's all over but the shouting. The motion to deny witnesses and documents passed by one vote. I suspect that what happens next is voting to aquit.

So from here it goes to the voters. If we can assure the integrity of the election, it might turn out ok yet.


Don

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:Here is the best question of the impeachment trial:

"“Are you aware that House intelligence committee staffer Shawn Misko had a close relationship with Eric Ciaramella while at the National Security Council together; and are you aware -and how do you respond to- reports that Ciaramella and Misko may have worked together to plot impeaching the President before there were formal house impeachment proceedings?“

Chief Justice Roberts refused to read the question, allegedly because it identifies the anonymous "whistle blower.". Democrats was the cock sucker's, excuse me "whistle blower's" identify concealed. This is allegedly to protect Monica Lewinsky's disciple from retribution. However; once their identify is confirmed, it can then be proven that they were plotting to impeach President Trump during the fist meeting of National Security Council staff after his inauguration.

Excellent discussion of Senator Paul's question, background and implications. Ask yourself why the video is already being scrubbed from the internet.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... onference/

Now view the Biden video.

https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY

I've thought that he should be impeached from square one. I imagine I'm not the only one. As for grounds, I think there is lots to be explored. Bribery, fraud, campaign finance law violation and cover-up. In all likelihood money laundering, tax evasion. All this stuff, once demonstrated, constitutes grounds for impeachment and removal from office.

So, Fly, no conspiracy or cover-up here. I for one am bringing it out into the open.

Don

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