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Re: The Trump Administration's War With Reality
Post by smr   » Tue May 07, 2019 8:51 pm

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That's nice but I feel your pathological hatred would lead you into ending the life of Trump and his family but that would invalidate and contradict your ideal of no guns. So that's what is stopping you. You hysterical repeat what the main street media pundits say. Do you have a political idea that is all your own?
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Re: The Trump Administration's War With Reality
Post by Daryl   » Wed May 08, 2019 1:14 am

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I shouldn't weigh into this, as I just know that smr won't even try to understand what I say.
No one is indicating pathological hatred of Trump and his family, let alone even faintly considering shooting them. That little wrinkle is all yours smr.
What people are saying is that the Mueller report doesn't exonerate Trump and co, and that they may well be in big legal trouble in the future, when normal service is resumed, and the current third world type corruption ceases.
Personally I believe that even a successful impeachment would not be a good outcome, as the "deplorables" would continue to believe that they were robbed, and the Washington swamp got their hero.
Much better for him to be voted out and the whole hill billy clan then to be charged under normal criminal law, and jailed as common criminals.

smr wrote:That's nice but I feel your pathological hatred would lead you into ending the life of Trump and his family but that would invalidate and contradict your ideal of no guns. So that's what is stopping you. You hysterical repeat what the main street media pundits say. Do you have a political idea that is all your own?
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Re: The Trump Administration's War With Reality
Post by gcomeau   » Wed May 08, 2019 12:09 pm

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Daryl wrote:I shouldn't weigh into this, as I just know that smr won't even try to understand what I say.
No one is indicating pathological hatred of Trump and his family, let alone even faintly considering shooting them. That little wrinkle is all yours smr.
What people are saying is that the Mueller report doesn't exonerate Trump and co, and that they may well be in big legal trouble in the future, when normal service is resumed, and the current third world type corruption ceases.
Personally I believe that even a successful impeachment would not be a good outcome, as the "deplorables" would continue to believe that they were robbed, and the Washington swamp got their hero.
Much better for him to be voted out and the whole hill billy clan then to be charged under normal criminal law, and jailed as common criminals.


One does not preclude the other. Why not 1 THEN 2? (Besides the fact that the current GOP in control of the Senate wouldn't vote to actually impeach him if he invited Putin to the White House and then publicly signed over the entire country to him)
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Re: The Trump Administration's War With Reality
Post by chuckpeterson   » Sat May 18, 2019 12:08 pm

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The Truth About Who Trump Is

Trump’s charitable giving--Helderman reported that they couldn’t find a single cash donation to charity that Trump personally had made over the previous five years.
Trump and the Truth: His Charitable Giving

Trump promised $1 million of his own money to veterans' causes; Trump lied
https://tinyurl.com/yb4gmnya

Trump’s tax reform—
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) reported that under the Act individuals and pass-through entities like partnerships and S corporations would receive about $1,125 billion in net benefits (i.e. net tax cuts offset by reduced healthcare subsidies)

corporations would receive around $320 billion in benefits.
the Act would add an estimated $2.289 trillion to the national debt over ten years
The individual and pass-through tax cuts fade over time and become net tax increases starting in 2027 while the corporate tax cuts are permanent.
Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 - Wikipedia

[1] These tax cuts drastically increase our National Dept
[2] give a permanent tax break to the rich
[3] throw a few crumbs to the working class for a few years
[4] then (for the working class) the rate goes back to where it was.


U.S. BUDGET DEFICIT REACHES HIGHER LEVEL UNDER TRUMP THAN AT ANY
Trump’s Increased spending in 2018 bumped the deficit up 17 percent to $779 billion in fiscal year 2018, largely due to an increase in spending and a decrease in corporate tax revenue because of the Republican tax cuts late last year. The deficit is now on track to surpass $1 trillion before 2020.
U.S. budget deficit reaches higher level under Trump than at any point in Obama's second term

Trump filed bank bankruptcy six (6) times, after accruing about $1.8 billion in debt; he will take America with him on his seventh (7) bankruptcy
https://tinyurl.com/y9lozu3q

----Donald Trump's greatest achievements---- (to date)


Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses
President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.
Trump signs bill revoking Obama-era gun checks for mental illness

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration on Monday rejected an Obama-era plan to make automobiles more fuel efficient
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2018/04 ... autos.html

Trump sons' hunting in focus as US lifts import ban on African elephant trophies
The Trump administration’s decision to loosen restrictions around the import of elephant trophies.

Donald Trump Jr and Eric Trump are prolific big-game hunters and during the 2016 campaign, images re-emerged of the pair on a 2011 hunting trip posing with animals they had killed on safari, including an elephant, a buffalo and a leopard.
Jane on Twitter

President Donald Trump again called for an end to the filibuster and
NO MORE DACA DEAL,"
Trump tweeted Sunday morning.
Trump tweets: 'NO MORE DACA DEAL' - CNNPolitics

Hillary won the popular vote, Trump bought of the Delegates representing the voters
Hillary Clinton………,.,… 65,844,610
Donald Trump's…….,.,…… 62,979,636

with a difference of ………2,864,974.

Trump is president because Russian and others hacked into our electoral system manipulating the data. They also flooded our media with “false” accusations of misconduct by Hillary and associates. It was and is being proven to be from foreign sabotage.

In the here and now; Trump has committed treason.

In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more extreme acts against one's nation or sovereign. A person who commits treason is known in law as a traitor.
In English law, high treason was punishable by being hanged,

Don’t hang Trump-----Just Impeach him​
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Re: The Trump Administration's War With Reality
Post by Dilandu   » Sat May 18, 2019 1:49 pm

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Just some interesting thought about US president military escapades:

* Bill Clinton - war in Yugoslavia
* George Bush (jr) - war in Afghanistan, Second Iraq war.
* Barack Obama - intervention in Lybia, intervention in Syria, participation in Yemen civil war.
* Donald Trump - nothing so far.

For warmongering cheating authoritarian he seems quite restrained in getting involved in new conflicts...
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Oh well, if shortening the front is what the Germans crave,
Let's shorten it to very end - the length of Fuhrer's grave.

(Red Army lyrics from 1945)
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Re: The Trump Administration's War With Reality
Post by The E   » Sat May 18, 2019 2:25 pm

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Dilandu wrote:For warmongering cheating authoritarian he seems quite restrained in getting involved in new conflicts...


Not for lack of trying though. Thankfully, China doesn't feel too threatened yet and Iran isn't all that hot on getting curbstomped either...
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Re: The Trump Administration's War With Reality
Post by smr   » Wed May 22, 2019 10:41 am

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I think your absolutely right that the Demoncrats should Impeach Trump! Face the facts that HRC ran a terrible campaign. She should have articulated her vision for American rather than constantly attack Trump. I know if she had not destroyed 33,000 emails, she would have been elected. I know vote for Hilary because she would be the first woman President. Wait I know why she lost, how about selling access to the US government through his foundation. To be fair, Obama was doing the same thing but media just did not report on that.

Quit the belly aching and go beat Trump at the ballot box. The Demoncrats beat him in the 2018 election...go do it again.

chuckpeterson wrote:The Truth About Who Trump Is

Trump’s charitable giving--Helderman reported that they couldn’t find a single cash donation to charity that Trump personally had made over the previous five years.
Trump and the Truth: His Charitable Giving

Trump promised $1 million of his own money to veterans' causes; Trump lied
https://tinyurl.com/yb4gmnya

Trump’s tax reform—
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) reported that under the Act individuals and pass-through entities like partnerships and S corporations would receive about $1,125 billion in net benefits (i.e. net tax cuts offset by reduced healthcare subsidies)

corporations would receive around $320 billion in benefits.
the Act would add an estimated $2.289 trillion to the national debt over ten years
The individual and pass-through tax cuts fade over time and become net tax increases starting in 2027 while the corporate tax cuts are permanent.
Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 - Wikipedia

[1] These tax cuts drastically increase our National Dept
[2] give a permanent tax break to the rich
[3] throw a few crumbs to the working class for a few years
[4] then (for the working class) the rate goes back to where it was.


U.S. BUDGET DEFICIT REACHES HIGHER LEVEL UNDER TRUMP THAN AT ANY
Trump’s Increased spending in 2018 bumped the deficit up 17 percent to $779 billion in fiscal year 2018, largely due to an increase in spending and a decrease in corporate tax revenue because of the Republican tax cuts late last year. The deficit is now on track to surpass $1 trillion before 2020.
U.S. budget deficit reaches higher level under Trump than at any point in Obama's second term

Trump filed bank bankruptcy six (6) times, after accruing about $1.8 billion in debt; he will take America with him on his seventh (7) bankruptcy
https://tinyurl.com/y9lozu3q

----Donald Trump's greatest achievements---- (to date)


Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses
President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.
Trump signs bill revoking Obama-era gun checks for mental illness

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration on Monday rejected an Obama-era plan to make automobiles more fuel efficient
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2018/04 ... autos.html

Trump sons' hunting in focus as US lifts import ban on African elephant trophies
The Trump administration’s decision to loosen restrictions around the import of elephant trophies.

Donald Trump Jr and Eric Trump are prolific big-game hunters and during the 2016 campaign, images re-emerged of the pair on a 2011 hunting trip posing with animals they had killed on safari, including an elephant, a buffalo and a leopard.
Jane on Twitter

President Donald Trump again called for an end to the filibuster and
NO MORE DACA DEAL,"
Trump tweeted Sunday morning.
Trump tweets: 'NO MORE DACA DEAL' - CNNPolitics

Hillary won the popular vote, Trump bought of the Delegates representing the voters
Hillary Clinton………,.,… 65,844,610
Donald Trump's…….,.,…… 62,979,636

with a difference of ………2,864,974.

Trump is president because Russian and others hacked into our electoral system manipulating the data. They also flooded our media with “false” accusations of misconduct by Hillary and associates. It was and is being proven to be from foreign sabotage.

In the here and now; Trump has committed treason.

In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more extreme acts against one's nation or sovereign. A person who commits treason is known in law as a traitor.
In English law, high treason was punishable by being hanged,

Don’t hang Trump-----Just Impeach him​
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Re: The Trump Administration's War With Reality
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Wed May 22, 2019 4:01 pm

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Dilandu wrote:Just some interesting thought about US president military escapades:

* Bill Clinton - war in Yugoslavia
* George Bush (jr) - war in Afghanistan, Second Iraq war.
* Barack Obama - intervention in Lybia, intervention in Syria, participation in Yemen civil war.
* Donald Trump - nothing so far.

For warmongering cheating authoritarian he seems quite restrained in getting involved in new conflicts...



That is what we call neoisolationism.

Trump is even refraining from invading Venezualla indpite of the presence of Cuban, Chinese and Russian troops who are there to kill any civilians that object to being starved to death.
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Re: The Trump Administration's War With Reality
Post by chuckpeterson   » Thu May 23, 2019 5:50 pm

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Should Trump Be Impeached

The is not a question directed to the public, the vast majority, it’s a question directed to The House of Representatives.

& Let the chips fall wherever they may,

If a Republican Senator supports what Trump is and has been doing then let this Republican Senator stand up and vote,
Ya or Ney

What say you—

let this Republican Senator stand up and vote—
Ya or Ney

for all to see

what say you-?
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Re: The Trump Administration's War With Reality
Post by gcomeau   » Thu May 23, 2019 6:08 pm

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chuckpeterson wrote:Should Trump Be Impeached

The is not a question directed to the public, the vast majority, it’s a question directed to The House of Representatives.


While I appreciate the importance of the question, they don't exactly read this forum...
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