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Re: When did Honor become the MVP? | |
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by cthia » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:30 pm | |
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Unarguably, she had arrived for certain when she became a martyr who rose from the dead, it just doesn't get any better than that. Kudos Annachie.
Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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Re: When did Honor become the MVP? | |
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by tlb » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:53 pm | |
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One more support for this is from chapter 8 of Honor Among Enemies (as I noted a earlier post) where we have the first report of the nickname "the Salamander". |
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Re: When did Honor become the MVP? | |
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by cthia » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:23 pm | |
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****** * I've got a personal question for Honor if I can ever get past her armsmen, but I'll ask all of you. We know the Hauptmans didn't hurt Honor's career in the least bit after she won them over. And I'm sure we all agree the Hauptman's must have done a lot for her, even if only behind the scenes. Can anyone give any concrete examples? I can only specifically recall Stacey buying out a miscreant news column, but nothing else about the news column. Knowing someone with the financial hammer the Hauptman's wield is like knowing Thor, but when did they ever throw the hammer for her? Seriously, I thought the Hauptmans were going to come out swinging at some point against Pavel Young. Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by ldwechsler » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:27 am | |
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****** * I've got a personal question for Honor if I can ever get past her armsmen, but I'll ask all of you. We know the Hauptmans didn't hurt Honor's career in the least bit after she won them over. And I'm sure we all agree the Hauptman's must have done a lot for her, even if only behind the scenes. Can anyone give any concrete examples? I can only specifically recall Stacey buying out a miscreant news column, but nothing else about the news column. Knowing someone with the financial hammer the Hauptman's wield is like knowing Thor, but when did they ever throw the hammer for her? Seriously, I thought the Hauptmans were going to come out swinging at some point against Pavel Young.[/quote] I recall that the Hauptmans partnered with her on some of her projects on Grayson later on. |
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by Galactic Sapper » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:38 am | |
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And lent her legal staff on occasion. My question is who does Honor trust to vote her proxy in the Lords? Prior to Operation Thunderbolt I'd have assumed it would be Willy Alexander, but the PM doesn't routinely vote in the Lords so she'd have to pick someone else. Hamish is a possibility but he's busy enough that he's probably looking for a proxy as well. Michelle Henke's mother, perhaps? |
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by tlb » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:42 am | |
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But wasn't Pavel Young dead by the time Hauptman changed his position on Honor in Honor Among Enemies? |
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Re: When did Honor become the MVP? | |
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by cthia » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:27 pm | |
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I'm not sure, now that you mention it. I oftentimes forget where I am in the timeline during a reread, so it is quite possible. I'll look into it at my earliest convenience. Thanks. And it would make sense because I don't recall the Hauptmans even being a footnote during that mess. OTOH, if she hadn't yet won Klaus over, seems he would have tried to make sure she burned during that whole ordeal of a clown court. Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by tlb » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:51 pm | |
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Honor was not on trial, so there was nothing for Hauptman to do during Field of Dishonor (the fourth book) and after her performance on the dueling ground with Summervale he was glad that he did not make any move against her. Then she shot Young and was forced out of the House of Lords. So the next book, Flag in Exile, has her tending to her steading in Grayson. |
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by ldwechsler » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:45 am | |
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And she saves both Hauptmans in Honor Among Enemies and Klaus is a "man who pays his debts." Later on we find out about her close friendship with Stacy and, I think I recall that if both Hauptmans die, she takes control of their fortune. |
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by cthia » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:59 am | |
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Honor wasn't on trial, true. But there was nothing stopping Klaus from throwing his weight behind Young's exoneration. He also could have pushed for Harrington's guilt for not passing command, or at least muddied the waters enough to cleanly spring Young. There was never any danger of Young being put to death. In fact, he almost got off scott-free had it not been for Kuzak screaming at Hemphill. (I'll always imagine that's how that went down.)* Sonja wasn't quite over the scalding she got at the WDB, maybe? At any rate, Klaus was financially supporting the Navy and the Navy being able to continue its war efforts against the Peeps was everyone's worry. If Klaus had threatened to withdraw his financial support atop everything else threatening the Navy's war efforts - Young may have escaped without any punishment. *"Sonja! What the hell is wrong with you!? Honor is one of ours! Young is scum!" Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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