What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.

Peter.

NO DNA TEST WILL EVER TIE BACK TO A PARTICULAR TRIBE.

Unless there's a real genetic difference, say possible Norse blood in the the newfoundland tribe (Beosomething)

But that is not what the welcher asked for.
He asked for Indian blood.
That's what he got.

Now as for tribes, going back 8 generations, well that's extrapolation from family stories and where they lived.


None of which counters that Trump made a very public promise to do somethibg and welched. Again.

Nor does it counter that Trump and his followers desperately grab at anything to try and justify him not honoring his promise. Again.

Now, you can believe what you want, and generally do. But us people in the real world will stick with the truth

Trump welched. Again.

But then conmen typically do whdn push comes to shove.

The test she took compared an DNA for a group she never claimed ancestry from yet claimed whatever association that existed to as proof of her specific claims made about Cherokees and Delawares. That is a lie. Lieawatha

Trump wanted proof that her claims were proven via a DNA test. The DNA test did not use the appropriate samples. The results could have been derived from South American ancestry from her father's side. The results do not show she has the ancestry she has claimed. Had the test used the appropriate samples, she might have claimed the proof she sought. She can't, yet did anyway. Fauxcahantas.

Make excuses as you will. The claims Warren is making is doing nothing for the proggy cause. She wants Trump to pay her charity of choice $1 million for a flawed test that doesn't prove what he originally challenged she couldn't. Of course all proggies are good for is engage in false investigations, witch hunts and flawed tests to prove something that doesn't exist. No calusion with Russia, no obstruction of justice firing Comey's sorry ass and no basis to claim minority status.

They are genetically the same group.
Which is why you can't tell a Sioux from a Comanche or from a Lakota by their DNA.


But hey, go on, reinterpret Trumps words to make him not a welcher.

Reinterpreting Trump to try and explain him away seems to be a popular passtime.

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She claims to be Cherokee and Delaware and her father's family didn't like that her mother was part Indian. Harvard touted her Native American roots based on those claims. She took a rest to prove her claims and instead of saying there are no markers to prove that heritage, she accepted a test that compared people whose ancestors lived a continent away from those she claimed ancestry from. I am sure she thinks all of us people of color are alike. What's the difference between Incas, Hopi, Navajo, Cherokee, Illini, Nez Perce or Iriquoi? Their genes can't be that different. We're all alike after all, we non-whites.

Bottom line is that testing her DNA against Native South and Central Americans doesn't prove her claims that she is descended from Cherokees and Delawares. Furthermore, having that minute level of non Caucasian DNA doesn't make her a person of color she advertised herself as being.

Fauxcahantas failed. But please, continue to argue the point and poss off more minorities.

The intellectual dishonesty and disconnect is fascinating. You try to rip Warren to shreds and call her derogatory names because she said that according to her family history she has native Indian ancestry (which the DNA test essentially proves) but you let Trumps glaring lies pass and even defends them as the truth.

Why is that?

Why do Trump supporters assign derogatory names to political opponents and specifically when the opponents are women?

Are you threatened by women in power?

Does it make you feel better about yourself?

Why don't Trump supporters want to be held to the same standards as they require of others?

Joat42 wrote:Why don't Trump supporters want to be held to the same standards as they require of others?

Simple. They're not actually Americans, they're 'muricuns.
See? Simple.

What's with this "proggies" that both Fly and Peter are using?
My assumption is that it is an insult derived from progressives as opposed to conservatives? If so it follows on from an other assumption that mankind consists politically of two tribes, progressives or leftys and conservatives or righties.
I'll call bullshit on that.
Some from the hard right seem to believe that there are two camps with consistent and set values that come in a neat package.

I can use myself as a single example of how stupid that is. I tend to the left (proggy?) side on looking after the weaker people in our society. Support unions, PC, religious tolerance (to Muslims as well), a socialist approach to health and welfare, controls on rabid capitalism, and such.
However as to personal and national defence I hew to what some call the right. Invade my house at 1am and find out. I spent years in a senior position in our military, have lots of weapons, know martial arts, and can be quite ruthless if the other side starts anything.

Lol, Trump tweeted a lie so blatant, something so stupid, that even Fox news fact checked him.

If you don't have samples to compare, how can you know that? If you know that to be true, you already have samples to make that comparison and don't need to take another sample. Yet, this guy claimed he had no proper sample for the comparison so needed to use improper one he did.

You assume that an Inca is identical to a Cherokee. I believe that assumption is false pending proof to the contrary. Recalling a theory that during the ice age much of the Atlantic was frozen and provided a solid route for people to cross, there is a possibility that Eastern tribes are genetically distinct from Western and South American tribes.

Annachie wrote:They are genetically the same group.
Which is why you can't tell a Sioux from a Comanche or from a Lakota by their DNA.


But hey, go on, reinterpret Trumps words to make him not a welcher.

Reinterpreting Trump to try and explain him away seems to be a popular passtime.

Progressives have been calling conservatives names well before Trump. Annachie has his preferred pejorative sense for conservatives. Fucktards was the most recent used. When progressives denounce their Proglodytes in Antifa and BLM engaged in mob behaviour, perhaps I'll refrain from using my own pejoratives. Of course they will likely still lie about conservatives and have the MSM support those lies. The ad ran against Romney when he ran against with a Ryan lookalike show actually pushing an old lady in a wheelchair off of cliff comes to mind. Non MSM reporter denounced that piece of crap. Or the claim in prior campaigns that we wanted to starve children. Then there is the knee jerk perjoratives of racist, sexist and homophobe. So the left has been free to define their opposition however hey wish and when the opposition gains traction with our definitions of the left, you cry foul. So, again, when the left muzzles their Proglodytes, I'll consider refraining from the use of pejoratives.

Until then I choose to ridicule any group that engages in violence (Portland, Berkley and the assorted Trump rallies) to promote their political goals. Last time the left did this, back in 68, it didn't work out well. I hope they keep it up and lose even more representation via the ballot box. I will certainly heap whatever ridicule I can on those efforts from the proggies, Proglodytes and outright masked thugs on the left.

PeterZ wrote:Progressives have been calling conservatives names well before Trump. Annachie has his preferred pejorative sense for conservatives. Fucktards was the most recent used. When progressives denounce their Proglodytes in Antifa and BLM engaged in mob behaviour, perhaps I'll refrain from using my own pejoratives. Of course they will likely still lie about conservatives and have the MSM support those lies. The ad ran against Romney when he ran against with a Ryan lookalike show actually pushing an old lady in a wheelchair off of cliff comes to mind. Non MSM reporter denounced that piece of crap. Or the claim in prior campaigns that we wanted to starve children. Then there is the knee jerk perjoratives of racist, sexist and homophobe. So the left has been free to define their opposition however hey wish and when the opposition gains traction with our definitions of the left, you cry foul. So, again, when the left muzzles their Proglodytes, I'll consider refraining from the use of pejoratives.

Until then I choose to ridicule any group that engages in violence (Portland, Berkley and the assorted Trump rallies) to promote their political goals. Last time the left did this, back in 68, it didn't work out well. I hope they keep it up and lose even more representation via the ballot box. I will certainly heap whatever ridicule I can on those efforts from the proggies, Proglodytes and outright masked thugs on the left.

Just so you know, it makes you sound like a not-too-bright twelve-year-old.