Trellheim, Sharleyan and the ICA

PeterZ wrote:

jtg452 wrote:There's no need to chase after that wild goose.

If She wants the pirates dealt with, a sweep by the ICN with a couple transports full of Marines will be all they need. A bunch of sloops with a few heavies and a couple bombardment ships for dealing with the strongholds (yes, that's overkill but you do want to send a message to the survivors) would scourge the seas clean of the pirates in short order.

NOTHING the Treilheimers have will be able to outsail those carronade armed Charisan sloops.

N O T H I N G.

Not in speed, not in handling and not in how close to the wind they can sail.

Galleys rowing dead in to the wind's eye may escape for the short-term since the sloops would have to tack and wear but the wind never tires and rowers most certainly do.

In other words, if they run, they just die tired.

All the sloop has to do is get close enough to open up with their Long Tom to put an end to the foolishness.

If they decide to engage instead of run, the results will be the same but would happen faster.

The larger forecastle guns of the galleys can be devastating but they are slow to load, fire and have a limited arc of fire. The long guns on the sloopsare mounted on a swiveling base, out range the forcastle galley guns, can fire explosive shells and have a higher rate of fire.

Don't even mention the broadside battery. Carronades are faster to fire than cannon and, being lighter, shorter guns, are usually MUCH larger bore than the ship would be able to carry in cannon. The 24pounder carronades weren't called 'Smashers' during the AoS for nothing.

Why bother sending obsolete sailing vessles against Trellheim? Send the City class ships backed up by Victory troop ships and be done.

jtg452 wrote:Logistics and availability.

A complete conversion from sail to steam takes time and not enough has passed.

evilauthor wrote:

jtg452 wrote:Logistics and availability.

A complete conversion from sail to steam takes time and not enough has passed.

Hasn't it? The Trellheim pirates are specifically noted for having a GALLEY fleet. As far as we know, they NEVER made the conversion to pirate galleons because those galleons would have required the production of a lots of new model artillery. And all that new model artillery got sucked up by the war with none to spare for Trellheim.

Dilandu wrote:For what possible reason they might need galleons? They are pirates. They do not even plan to fight sea battles.

They probably already switch to the schooners, thought. Or even created something like light corvette (after all, not only Charis could invent something new!)

jtg452 wrote:Hey guys, I'm with you on a Trelheim expedition being unnecessary. Note the use of wild goose chase and snipe hunting references at the beginning of each post.

The OP suggested a big conquest like invasion. Others wanted to waste resources like City class cruisers and steam troop transports.

My posts were a suggestion for, if it became necessary, a more efficient use of available resources to get the job done and, in the last post, an explanation as to why sending steam ships to do the job would be unpractical, wasteful and unnecessarily complex.

Personally, I figure the Treilheimers live in mortal fear of seeing the Kraken and Doomwhale on the masthead of anything bigger than a rowboat.


As for Charisan domination of all things aquatic in the last war, I figure that stand up showers suddenly became vogue in the Temple Lands because they were probably certain that a tub full of water would be enough to hold at least one armed Charisan.