Hi Hildum,
Kudos for some excellent points!
Although the way some atheists act and think corresponds to the way some religious act and believe, rationalizing their beliefs in the same way; rather than being completely irreligious, rational, and logical; but of course they're still human.
Of course if free will is critical to God's purpose, as I believe it is, providing the kind of incontrovertible proof believers and non-believers want, is counter to that purpose.
Can you say "not gonna happen"?
So we're stuck with living by faith, or not; sustained by the miracles we know of or personally experience, or not; to choose and live according to what we really believe, as Maikel puts it.
Which is just one more reason why RFC is such an inspiring story teller.
Now where could he have gotten that idea from?
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Hildum wrote:Bluesqueak wrote:
I agree that demonstrating that we live on a world that is curved is fairly easy for anyone with a boat and a telescope, but my experience with atheistic true believers, or the Jesus never existed crowd is that they've got a fairly 'sophisticated' system whereby they provide reasons to exclude any evidence that doesn't fit their worldview. Flat Earthers probably have that same kind of set-up. Whatever evidence you hand them, they'll be prepped with an explanation of why that evidence is fraudulent.
The term "atheistic true believers" is an oxymoron, and rather insulting at that. You seem to feel that atheism is simply another religion. It is not, and you are projecting your beliefs of how people should feel on atheists. Hence your comment "true believers."
Atheists do not believe in a god of any type. You claim there is one, so the burden of proof is on you, not on them. Show them a well designed and executed double blind study proving the existence of god, any god, and they will come around. A book that was obviously written and rewritten to support one group or another is not proof of anything.