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Spoliers GA poet UH
Post by TangoLima   » Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:00 pm

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The GF Grand Federation proposed by EP & EW seems to
a done deal. With Grayson probably joining in later.
Who are other possible members?
Beowulf and it coterie, Phoenix cluster, Erwhon, Maya
Sidemore, Meyers, Andermani and whatever polity forms
around the Basilsk WHJ are all possibilities.
What will be the terms and minimum standards for
membership? I hope himself might be forthcoming but
expect we will have to wait a whole.
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Re: Spoliers GA poet UH
Post by TangoLima   » Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:21 pm

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... and systems near the Old SKM.
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Re: Spoliers GA poet UH
Post by Theemile   » Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:16 pm

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TangoLima wrote:The GF Grand Federation proposed by EP & EW seems to
a done deal. With Grayson probably joining in later.
Who are other possible members?
Beowulf and it coterie, Phoenix cluster, Erwhon, Maya
Sidemore, Meyers, Andermani and whatever polity forms
around the Basilsk WHJ are all possibilities.
What will be the terms and minimum standards for
membership? I hope himself might be forthcoming but
expect we will have to wait a whole.



Something tells me the Andermani will hold out for awhile - if anything their relationship initially will be an allied/loose economic membership, but as time passes, the advantages will outweigh their reticience for self rule/control.
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Re: Spoliers GA poet UH
Post by TangoLima   » Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:49 pm

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Can anyone tell me who first posited the theory of bubble
states/polities forming around WHJ's?
A brilliant idea and likely to become reality in the
hiatus as evidenced by the TQ?
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Re: Spoliers GA poet UH
Post by PeterZ   » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:06 pm

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Theemile wrote:Something tells me the Andermani will hold out for awhile - if anything their relationship initially will be an allied/loose economic membership, but as time passes, the advantages will outweigh their reticience for self rule/control.


Agreed. Junction transport fees could be a good inducement to joining the federated Empire. I suspect that many of the old Manticore Alliance will join. It all depends on the reach and scope of the Imperial Federal Governemnt. If the scope is simply mutual defense, why bother? The Grand Alliance worked pretty well.

If the new federal governemnt is more like the Quadrant, then most of the Old MA will likely join. They will be sitting between the two lobes of the new Federation of Sentients (treecats will eventually take their place). The area around Mesa will either form another Imperial Quadrant or association of allies. Mesa can't help but remain a Protectorate and house a heavy SEM preseence if for no toher reason that their wormhole temrini. I can aslo see Haven and Erewhon extending influence to the Fringe, Verge and ex-Protectorates around Jushua via the WH termini. I believe Maya will retain control of the Verge and Fringe region between Joshua and Haven.

Assuming that the new Federation retains contol over the WH termini they currently control as reparations for the the war, then the reasons to join the Federation grows much larger. However, I am not sure just how quickly either QE III or Eoilse will want to proceed. All those systems have to be integrated after all.
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Re: Spoliers GA poet UH
Post by PeterZ   » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:09 pm

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TangoLima wrote:Can anyone tell me who first posited the theory of bubble
states/polities forming around WHJ's?
A brilliant idea and likely to become reality in the
hiatus as evidenced by the TQ?


Not sure if this was the first discussion, but Lyonheart and I discussed expansion and the seeminly consistent 100 ly radius of current multi stellar polities. The bubble idea stemmed from the ability to control 100 ly from the WH termini.
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Re: Spoliers GA poet UH
Post by TangoLima   » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:17 pm

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Thank you PZ
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