Remaining holes in SLN intel

ldwechsler wrote:

n7axw wrote:We already know that Rajampet set things up as a payback for a MAlign bribe. Also bribed were Crandal and Filereta.

So yes, the "Alignment was screwing around here." No doubt about it.

Don
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I would bet that Rajampat never actually viewed it like that.

ART, Chapter 29 wrote:Well, he thought dryly, you might think about that 3.6 billion credits in your private account, Rajani. Not a bad paycheck, all things considered. And you can’t pretend you didn’t know you were supping with the devil, although maybe you might have wanted to use a spoon that was a bit longer, now that the fucking Manties’ve finally tumbled to the truth. Or part of the truth, anyway. God knows where the wilder parts of their hallucinations are coming from! Something in the water or the air out there? Talk about paranoia!

n7axw wrote:

We already know that Rajampet set things up as a payback for a MAlign bribe. Also bribed were Crandal and Filereta.

So yes, the "Alignment was screwing around here." No doubt about it.

Don

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Fox2! wrote:
Was Filareta bribed, or compromised through Manpower catering to his more .... esoteric tastes?

Castenea wrote:

Fox2! wrote:
Was Filareta bribed, or compromised through Manpower catering to his more .... esoteric tastes?

I thought the text was rather clear that Filareta was compromised by his exotic and unspecified (although fatal to manpower slaves) tastes.

Jonathan_S wrote:(Now you can do some tricks with the wormhole, like White Haven did at Trevor's Star if you can clear the defenses with normal forces you can slam a rapid reinforcement through the wormhole to disrupt the tactical balance while not leaving your core system(s) uncovered for long. He did it by luring the defending fleet units in system, then slipped a message through letting Home Fleet know the terminus was undefended. But in theory a pounce from hyper to clear the defenses could also proceed a message whistling up reinforcements)

Maldorian wrote:What I don´t understand is the lack of knowledge about the Beowulf whormhole. They should know the limit of whormhole transit, but, if I am remember correct, the solarian forces at Beowulf try to jump with all their ships, what is more than the whormhole can handle. That is the stupidy there in my eyes.

Another point is, that the whormhole was still open for press and non-solarian ships. Shouldn´t be difficult to get proof that the Junction defense is up or down.

In the end: Have the solarians anything do correct? For me it look like they use a mine detector, not to avoid mines, to jump directly on it.



PS: with mines I mean anything you can do wrong.

akira.taylor wrote:My recollection is that the SLN does know the max tonage - at least, the Beowulf officer they present their "plan" to deduces they intend a mass transit based on the number of SDs they are sending (just as many as will fit). Now, Beowulf already knew the SLN's intentions, but they didn't worry about tipping the SLN off to that fact by making the deduction.

I'm guessing the limit is pretty well known (at least to anyone who cares - kind of like the max draft for the Strait of Gibraltar (which I've heard does have a max draft, but I would have to go look it up to be sure, or know what it is - but I can, and no one will notice or care if I do).

akira.taylor wrote:

Maldorian wrote:What I don´t understand is the lack of knowledge about the Beowulf whormhole. They should know the limit of whormhole transit, but, if I am remember correct, the solarian forces at Beowulf try to jump with all their ships, what is more than the whormhole can handle. That is the stupidy there in my eyes.

Another point is, that the whormhole was still open for press and non-solarian ships. Shouldn´t be difficult to get proof that the Junction defense is up or down.

In the end: Have the solarians anything do correct? For me it look like they use a mine detector, not to avoid mines, to jump directly on it.

There are people whose job it is to know these things. And with computers it is easy to hold on to data.

The real issue is that the League really didn't care. They were the bully and always won.

Interesting point: Beowulf could have let the ships through and all would have been destroyed or captured. It would not have taken all that much to do it. After all, they were coming through a wormhole.

If a handful went through, they would either be shattered or on the verge of surrender when the next ones came through.

And the League might not have had any complaint.



PS: with mines I mean anything you can do wrong.

My recollection is that the SLN does know the max tonage - at least, the Beowulf officer they present their "plan" to deduces they intend a mass transit based on the number of SDs they are sending (just as many as will fit). Now, Beowulf already knew the SLN's intentions, but they didn't worry about tipping the SLN off to that fact by making the deduction.

I'm guessing the limit is pretty well known (at least to anyone who cares - kind of like the max draft for the Strait of Gibraltar (which I've heard does have a max draft, but I would have to go look it up to be sure, or know what it is - but I can, and no one will notice or care if I do).

tlb wrote:

akira.taylor wrote:My recollection is that the SLN does know the max tonage - at least, the Beowulf officer they present their "plan" to deduces they intend a mass transit based on the number of SDs they are sending (just as many as will fit). Now, Beowulf already knew the SLN's intentions, but they didn't worry about tipping the SLN off to that fact by making the deduction.

I'm guessing the limit is pretty well known (at least to anyone who cares - kind of like the max draft for the Strait of Gibraltar (which I've heard does have a max draft, but I would have to go look it up to be sure, or know what it is - but I can, and no one will notice or care if I do).

Out of curiosity I did look up Gibraltar. The port does have a maximum draft, but the minimum depth of the Strait is 300 meters (up to 900 meters) - so possibly not a problem.