Uncompromising Honor Up on Amazon and with Spoilers

Does this mean the e-arc is going to be out soon.

quite possibly a cat wrote:Wow. That is not the winning strategy. The winning strategy is to watch the Manties get framed for a EEE violation, while not breaking Edict yourself.

I don't think they make it out of this one alive.

Please read UH snippets 2 and 3, and tiny snippet 7.

These give the background for the blurb. Can you spell 'Case Buccaneer?"

senna wrote:Does this mean the e-arc is going to be out soon.

The October print date means we probably won't see the earc until late fall/early summer.

Theemile wrote:
One more Point, David mentioned that this book ends in 1923 (he gave the exact date, but I can't find it atm), so going from the date the last 3 book ended on in Octoberish 1922, the next book will only cover 6 months to a year. So don't expect the book to slowly track events - it's all going to happen really fast.

I don’t know about that. David could have this book start back with the founding of Mesa and give lots of back story to explain how the current situation came about. Each chapter could detail a different planet with a large cast of characters that really leads nowhere. Then the next chapter could take place on a different planet after a 50 year time jump. Last third of the chapters covering the time from October 1922 to sometime in 1923. Or as I like to call it “Shadow of Victory: Take 2.” After all that book went back in time to at least February 1922 when “Mission of Honor” first came out and then revisited several other books as well.

I have not really seen any ability for David to be fast paced since at least “At All Costs”. There has just been a widening of viewpoints, but very little effort to push the timeline forward.

1993 “On Basilisk Station” comes out. Ends in 1900.
2005 “At All Costs” comes out. Ends in 1921.
So in 12 years of real time David moved the plot forward by 21 years.
Now we are looking at “Uncompromising Honor” 2018 ending in 1923. So David has taken 13 years to move the plot forward by 2 years.

Interesting. Uncompromising Honor is listed on amazon.com, but as of about 4 minutes ago, there's no sign of it on amazon.co.uk. It's not listed on the Fantastic Fiction website either, or on the Baen Books publishing schedule (which still only goes up to August). And if you get the impression that I'm getting impatient, you're absolutely right . . .
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Thunder Child Actual wrote:

Theemile wrote:
One more Point, David mentioned that this book ends in 1923 (he gave the exact date, but I can't find it atm), so going from the date the last 3 book ended on in Octoberish 1922, the next book will only cover 6 months to a year. So don't expect the book to slowly track events - it's all going to happen really fast.

I don’t know about that. David could have this book start back with the founding of Mesa and give lots of back story to explain how the current situation came about. Each chapter could detail a different planet with a large cast of characters that really leads nowhere. Then the next chapter could take place on a different planet after a 50 year time jump. Last third of the chapters covering the time from October 1922 to sometime in 1923. Or as I like to call it “Shadow of Victory: Take 2.” After all that book went back in time to at least February 1922 when “Mission of Honor” first came out and then revisited several other books as well.

I have not really seen any ability for David to be fast paced since at least “At All Costs”. There has just been a widening of viewpoints, but very little effort to push the timeline forward.

1993 “On Basilisk Station” comes out. Ends in 1900.
2005 “At All Costs” comes out. Ends in 1921.
So in 12 years of real time David moved the plot forward by 21 years.
Now we are looking at “Uncompromising Honor” 2018 ending in 1923. So David has taken 13 years to move the plot forward by 2 years.

Quite true, however my point was that we are not going to see the league slowly melt down, or take it's time and doubledown on construction and research.

Even if the prologue is the founding members of the Star League sitting at a pub nursing a beer, when one says "hey guys, I've got a wacky idea for a new government", and books 1 and 2 details Thomas Jefferson- Machiavelli-Leonardo-Columbo sitting at home on Beowulf eating late night pizza with funky mushrooms, trying to furiously write his ideas of a new, balanced, Star government, it does not matter.

We are still not going to see the meltdown of the SLN take years like some have been suggesting. Maya is leaving, soon. Beowulf is being attacked, soon. The SLN is going to do terrible things as the universe's stupidest bullies, soon. And Honor is going to mess them up, soon.

for those who could not find blurb

FIRST NEW HONOR HARRINGTON NOVEL IN FIVE YEARS! New York Times, USA Today, Wall Street Journal and international bestselling phenomenon David Weber delivers book #19 in the multiple New York Times best-selling Honor Harrington series, the first new Honor Harrington novel since 2013's Shadow of Freedom.

HONOR'S FINISHING WHAT SHE STARTED

The Solarian League's navy counts its superdreadnoughts by the thousands. Not even its own government knows how enormous its economy truly is. And for hundreds of years, the League has borne the banner of human civilization, been the ideal to which humanity aspires in its diaspora across the galaxy.

But the bureaucrats known as the "Mandarins," who rule today's League, are not the men and women who founded it so long ago. They are corrupt, venal, accountable to no one . . . and they've decided the upstart Star Kingdom of Manticore must be destroyed.

Honor Harrington has worn the Star Kingdom's uniform for half a century and served her monarch and her people well. In the course of those years, the woman the newsies call the Salamander has grown from a tactically brilliant but politically naïve junior officer to supreme fleet command and a seat on the highest military and political councils of the Grand Alliance.

Very few people know war the way Honor Harrington does. Very few have lost as many men and women, as many friends, as much family, as she has. Yet despite that, hers has been a voice of caution. She knows the Mandarins and the Solarian League Navy are growing increasingly desperate as the truth of their technological inferiority sinks home, but she also knows the sheer size of the League. And she knows how its citizens will react if the Grand Alliance takes the war to the League, attacks its star systems, destroys its infrastructure . . . kills its civilians. Today's victory, bought on those terms, can only guarantee a future war of revenge against a resurgent Solarian League and its navy.

Honor knows the Grand Alliance must find a victory that doesn't require incursions deep into Solarian space, doesn't leave a legacy of bottomless hatred, and the strategy she supports has been working.

The League is sliding towards inglorious defeat as it steadily loses ground in the Protectorates and the Verge. As its central government teeters towards bankruptcy and even some of its core systems opt to secede in the face of the Mandarins' corruption. As the Solarian Navy finally realizes it cannot face an Alliance battle fleet and win.

But the Mandarins have embraced a desperate new strategy, and in pursuit of that strategy, the SLN has committed atrocities such as the galaxy has not known in a thousand years. The League have violated its own Eridani Edict against mass civilian casualties, violated the Deneb Accords prohibition on war crimes.

And they have finally killed too many of the people Honor Harrington loves.

Hers is the voice of caution and compromise no longer, and the galaxy is about to see something it has never imagined.

The Salamander is coming for the Solarian League, and Hell is coming in her wake.FIRST NEW HONOR HARRINGTON NOVEL IN FIVE YEARS! New York Times, USA Today, Wall Street Journal and international bestselling phenomenon David Weber delivers book #19 in the multiple New York Times best-selling Honor Harrington series, the first new Honor Harrington novel since 2013's Shadow of Freedom.

HONOR'S FINISHING WHAT SHE STARTED

The Solarian League's navy counts its superdreadnoughts by the thousands. Not even its own government knows how enormous its economy truly is. And for hundreds of years, the League has borne the banner of human civilization, been the ideal to which humanity aspires in its diaspora across the galaxy.

But the bureaucrats known as the "Mandarins," who rule today's League, are not the men and women who founded it so long ago. They are corrupt, venal, accountable to no one . . . and they've decided the upstart Star Kingdom of Manticore must be destroyed.

Honor Harrington has worn the Star Kingdom's uniform for half a century and served her monarch and her people well. In the course of those years, the woman the newsies call the Salamander has grown from a tactically brilliant but politically naïve junior officer to supreme fleet command and a seat on the highest military and political councils of the Grand Alliance.

Very few people know war the way Honor Harrington does. Very few have lost as many men and women, as many friends, as much family, as she has. Yet despite that, hers has been a voice of caution. She knows the Mandarins and the Solarian League Navy are growing increasingly desperate as the truth of their technological inferiority sinks home, but she also knows the sheer size of the League. And she knows how its citizens will react if the Grand Alliance takes the war to the League, attacks its star systems, destroys its infrastructure . . . kills its civilians. Today's victory, bought on those terms, can only guarantee a future war of revenge against a resurgent Solarian League and its navy.

Honor knows the Grand Alliance must find a victory that doesn't require incursions deep into Solarian space, doesn't leave a legacy of bottomless hatred, and the strategy she supports has been working.

The League is sliding towards inglorious defeat as it steadily loses ground in the Protectorates and the Verge. As its central government teeters towards bankruptcy and even some of its core systems opt to secede in the face of the Mandarins' corruption. As the Solarian Navy finally realizes it cannot face an Alliance battle fleet and win.

But the Mandarins have embraced a desperate new strategy, and in pursuit of that strategy, the SLN has committed atrocities such as the galaxy has not known in a thousand years. The League have violated its own Eridani Edict against mass civilian casualties, violated the Deneb Accords prohibition on war crimes.

And they have finally killed too many of the people Honor Harrington loves.

Hers is the voice of caution and compromise no longer, and the galaxy is about to see something it has never imagined.

The Salamander is coming for the Solarian League, and Hell is coming in her wake.

New theory based off the blurb:

When a large ship with a powerful modern military hyperdrive goes through a hyperbridge the bridge isn't fully stabilized by the time the next ship can go through. Instead it causes a small amount of deep seated damage that takes a little bit more time to repair. Honor, send more super-dreadnoughts with minimal jump time than anyone ever has in the past, causing what is normally strain that can be ignored to build catastrophically. The hyperbridge shatters forming a portal straight to Hell in the wake of Honor's fleet. Humanity learns what's been wiping out intelligent space faring races in the worst manner possible. Somewhere, in a neglected corner of the Solarian League a single Peep shakes her first at and says "I told you so!"

I may have taken this blurb overly literally.

Once they break the Edict, the Alliance really no longer has to worry about the moral high ground of taking the war to the league.

ywing14 wrote:Once they break the Edict, the Alliance really no longer has to worry about the moral high ground of taking the war to the league.

We will see; the moral high ground is still a good place to be, if you want peace to be lasting. In particular the Grand Alliance wants to be on friendly terms with the majority of whatever follows.