[Spoiler - UH] utube snippet

cthia wrote:

Brigade XO wrote:Go back and read "Beauty and the Beast" about how Honor's parents met.
You could label what Alfred Harrington displays, at least in relation to Allison, as a "psychic" talent but it is not what Treecats have amoung themselves of what goes on in the normal Treecat-Human bond. He knows she is in trouble, he also has a fair idea of where she is but they don't read each other's minds.
It felt odd, reading that part of the story, introducing this semi-forshadowing paranormal talent with Alfred when it clearly doesn't show up anywhere elce in the series. We know he's a Harrington- direct line Harrington and his daughter will be Honore, but he doesn't show the aptitude or capacity to bond with a Treecat. It also later clearly doesn't bother him that he doesn't have it though eventualy his daughter has it. Plot device, backstory (Marine who saw too much and changed track to become a Dr.) and putting the pieces in-place for the linkage on so many levels with Beowulf.

Interesting post Brigade XO. The groundwork has certainly been laid between Alfred and Allison in that regard for the author to exploit some time in the future. I always imagine it will manifest itself when Allison is the result of foul play, kidnapped or something. And the psychic link between them spells doom for the suspects.

Err ... that's pretty much the plot of Beauty and the Beast

cthia wrote:

Brigade XO wrote:Go back and read "Beauty and the Beast" about how Honor's parents met.
You could label what Alfred Harrington displays, at least in relation to Allison, as a "psychic" talent but it is not what Treecats have amoung themselves of what goes on in the normal Treecat-Human bond. He knows she is in trouble, he also has a fair idea of where she is but they don't read each other's minds.
It felt odd, reading that part of the story, introducing this semi-forshadowing paranormal talent with Alfred when it clearly doesn't show up anywhere elce in the series. We know he's a Harrington- direct line Harrington and his daughter will be Honore, but he doesn't show the aptitude or capacity to bond with a Treecat. It also later clearly doesn't bother him that he doesn't have it though eventualy his daughter has it. Plot device, backstory (Marine who saw too much and changed track to become a Dr.) and putting the pieces in-place for the linkage on so many levels with Beowulf.

Interesting post Brigade XO. The groundwork has certainly been laid between Alfred and Allison in that regard for the author to exploit some time in the future. I always imagine it will manifest itself when Allison is the result of foul play, kidnapped or something. And the psychic link between them spells doom for the suspects.

Ranomiser wrote:Err ... that's pretty much the plot of Beauty and the Beast

OMG! See? Didn't I tell ya? I must have psychic abilities too. I went there without even going there.

Thanks a bunch Randomiser.

According to Nimitz, Alfred's "bonding slot" has been taken by Allison. Given the way it's put it sounds very much like a human-tree cat bonding. Certainly the outward manifestation is very similar to a normal bonding.

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That would possibly be of use to explain Honor's eventual much greater sensitivity and ability to communicate, at least to Nimitz. It could be possible that Allison has/had a predisposition to at least the empathic link and Honor benefits from having it on both sides of her genealogy.
Not the same as if two persons who were bonded with Treecats had a child who also bonded, but a different mix. In their universe, we are not shown people bonding- hopelessly in love perhaps, but not bonded like Treecats- other than Allison and Alfred.
Now we have Raoul who is clearly expanded in the direction of greater range of talent in that direction.
You want divergence of humans into something differnt in the series- you got it now.

cthia wrote:

Brigade XO wrote:Go back and read "Beauty and the Beast" about how Honor's parents met.
You could label what Alfred Harrington displays, at least in relation to Allison, as a "psychic" talent but it is not what Treecats have amoung themselves of what goes on in the normal Treecat-Human bond. He knows she is in trouble, he also has a fair idea of where she is but they don't read each other's minds.
It felt odd, reading that part of the story, introducing this semi-forshadowing paranormal talent with Alfred when it clearly doesn't show up anywhere elce in the series. We know he's a Harrington- direct line Harrington and his daughter will be Honore, but he doesn't show the aptitude or capacity to bond with a Treecat. It also later clearly doesn't bother him that he doesn't have it though eventualy his daughter has it. Plot device, backstory (Marine who saw too much and changed track to become a Dr.) and putting the pieces in-place for the linkage on so many levels with Beowulf.

Interesting post Brigade XO. The groundwork has certainly been laid between Alfred and Allison in that regard for the author to exploit some time in the future. I always imagine it will manifest itself when Allison is the result of foul play, kidnapped or something. And the psychic link between them spells doom for the suspects.

Ranomiser wrote:Err ... that's pretty much the plot of Beauty and the Beast

OMG! See? Didn't I tell ya? I must have psychic abilities too. I went there without even going there.

Thanks a bunch Randomiser.[/quote]

I would prefer NOT going back. RFC is not a kid. Let's have Honor moving forward. That's where the real story is. Every time we get a story that is in the past or a book in another series it takes away from Honor.

And I'm jonesing for Honor.

Clean Killer is a very troubled and driven Treecat. He has, however, apparently been passed by Treecat healers for, amoung other things, being sane. Insanity in the species has been hinted at in the past. Not that it is common, it apparently is exceedingly rare. Making it even more rare is that the reaction to it by other Treecats is swift and final- death. Crazy Treecats don't get the chance to breed.
Clean Killer has just been thrown into the deep end of attempting to understand humans. He was already truly wound tight and was going to watch Harlap like an empatch hawk, now he is going to have an open channel and Harlap just hit a more than vertical learning curve in something he has no real preperation for and while he has developed a masterful control of not letting things show in his life as an OFS agent etc, it's not the external that he is going to have trouble with.

This is probably going to be as much a learning experience and revelation to Harlap. He's smart, intelligent, adaptive and a survivor who has lived with a lot of things. And now he is going to find himself more than intimatly tied to another sentient being who is litteraly also going to be bonded with him and to whom he is going to have to explain a LOT of things...plus learn sign language very quickly and with an amazing depth of words.

I really want to see where the relationship between Harlap and Clean Killer goes and how it developes in both of them with the changes it drives, particularly what modifications/expantions it may cause in understanding of TwoLegs by Treecats.

cthia wrote:

Brigade XO wrote:Go back and read "Beauty and the Beast" about how Honor's parents met.
You could label what Alfred Harrington displays, at least in relation to Allison, as a "psychic" talent but it is not what Treecats have amoung themselves of what goes on in the normal Treecat-Human bond. He knows she is in trouble, he also has a fair idea of where she is but they don't read each other's minds.
It felt odd, reading that part of the story, introducing this semi-forshadowing paranormal talent with Alfred when it clearly doesn't show up anywhere elce in the series. We know he's a Harrington- direct line Harrington and his daughter will be Honore, but he doesn't show the aptitude or capacity to bond with a Treecat. It also later clearly doesn't bother him that he doesn't have it though eventualy his daughter has it. Plot device, backstory (Marine who saw too much and changed track to become a Dr.) and putting the pieces in-place for the linkage on so many levels with Beowulf.

Interesting post Brigade XO. The groundwork has certainly been laid between Alfred and Allison in that regard for the author to exploit some time in the future. I always imagine it will manifest itself when Allison is the result of foul play, kidnapped or something. And the psychic link between them spells doom for the suspects.

Ranomiser wrote:Err ... that's pretty much the plot of Beauty and the Beast

cthia wrote:OMG! See? Didn't I tell ya? I must have psychic abilities too. I went there without even going there.

Thanks a bunch Randomiser.

ldwechsler wrote:I would prefer NOT going back. RFC is not a kid. Let's have Honor moving forward. That's where the real story is. Every time we get a story that is in the past or a book in another series it takes away from Honor.

And I'm jonesing for Honor.

Better put a lid on your jonesing. The addiction didn't fare too well in Pavel Young's case.

May I recommend you content yourself with something a bit more generic but less dangerous? Honor's Heinie is a substitute for the taste that many desire but few acquire. Some have even been known to die over the rare epicurean delicacy.

IIRC the only example of a bent (evil) treecat was in Treecat Wars and that was the result of the previous story Fire Season. He was able to hide his nature due to the trauma that had happened to his clan. Clean Killer doesn't appear to have those conditions. He's pissed but he's not living among a traumatized clan.

I'm not saying it won't happen eventually but this doesn't give me that feel.

OTOH This adoption could be exactly what Harahap needs for his own redemption. Consider, since OFS turned his home into a protectorate he has seen how the Galaxy according to the League works. He's had no real exposure to a society like Manticore, Grayson or Haven.

We know he's been a mercenary all his adult life since that was his only option. Could this lead to a regeneration of his belief in something more than the only reality he has known? Its a complete unknown at this point.

Here's a little fun. Speculate on what Harahap is going to name (human style) his new fuzzy buddy.

I personally like Capone.

saber964 wrote:Here's a little fun. Speculate on what Harahap is going to name (human style) his new fuzzy buddy.

I personally like Capone.

What's wrong with Clean Killer?

Funny, I was just about to post that I am personally interested in the name Clean Killer will assign to Harahap. What's one more name for Harahap to assume? If he doesn't watch it, he's going to develop an identity crisis. He's had more names than Georgia Sakristos.

From the video snippet, it appears to me, that Clean Killer may have seen himself in Harahap, a Clean Killer too, poised as a scout and as deadly as a killer. His escort to the interrogations was armed but Harahap wasn't, yet it was obvious to Clean Killer who was the more dangerous. In light of that, I remember thinking, 'Who's escorting whom?'

Watch out Honor and Nimitz. Clean Killer and Harahap have just entered the race for the deadliest dynamic duo. The Batman and Robin of crime fighting.

Will Harahap and Clean Killer break the record for the most kills on HD? Now playing onscreen at a Cosmos near you, amongst oohs and ahs, clapping and cheering -- leering and jeering as well if you include the catcalls of the perverts turned on by a woman kicking ass. Literally kicking ass. The raw power emanating from the long legs of a genetically enhanced Sphinxian may make you know what a missile feels like coming out a tube.

Albeit, Nimitz is no Clean Killer, judging from the mess he made of the Faithful.

I imagine Nimitz says <I get enough of clean, minding my manners eating celery.>