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Re: Rachel Mayhew
Post by ldwechsler   » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:53 am

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drothgery wrote:
akira.taylor wrote:On a moderately serious note: if Rachel Mayhew is assigned to a Grayson ship, I think it has to be a Superdreadnaught - nothing smaller has female berthing in the GSN. At least, that was the state of afairs the last I heard.
That was quite a while ago, though.



With more female crews, the GSN will have to adapt. Either relax the rules or set up some crew space specifically for woman...the way the US does on some ships.
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Re: Rachel Mayhew
Post by pappilon   » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:00 am

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akira.taylor wrote:On a moderately serious note: if Rachel Mayhew is assigned to a Grayson ship, I think it has to be a Superdreadnaught - nothing smaller has female berthing in the GSN. At least, that was the state of afairs the last I heard.


drothgery wrote: That was quite a while ago, though.



ldwechsler wrote:With more female crews, the GSN will have to adapt. Either relax the rules or set up some crew space specifically for woman...the way the US does on some ships.


Why the insistence of keeping her on Grayson ships? Just like our Miss Owens, it would seem better for her and the Grayson navy to he=ave her serve on RMN ships. The professionalism she would learn there to take back would fit more with the traditions her father wants his navy to have.
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Re: Rachel Mayhew
Post by Dauntless   » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:59 am

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wasn't there an off hand comment probably is storm from the shadows about how grayson rolands would have the space for a couple of female ratings?
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Re: Rachel Mayhew
Post by saber964   » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:37 pm

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ldwechsler wrote:quote="drothgery"]
akira.taylor wrote:On a moderately serious note: if Rachel Mayhew is assigned to a Grayson ship, I think it has to be a Superdreadnaught - nothing smaller has female berthing in the GSN. At least, that was the state of afairs the last I heard.
That was quite a while ago, though.



With more female crews, the GSN will have to adapt. Either relax the rules or set up some crew space specifically for woman...the way the US does on some ships.[/quote]



They already have adapted. Try reading Obligated Service. The story takes place on a GSN tin can with two female officers, the story takes place around the time of Oyster Bay.
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Re: Rachel Mayhew
Post by Theemile   » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:59 pm

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Dauntless wrote:wasn't there an off hand comment probably is storm from the shadows about how grayson rolands would have the space for a couple of female ratings?


I believe that was the Grayson version if the Valiant CL.
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Re: Rachel Mayhew
Post by Jonathan_S   » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:11 am

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ldwechsler wrote:With more female crews, the GSN will have to adapt. Either relax the rules or set up some crew space specifically for woman...the way the US does on some ships.

Or they could have done what has occasionally been discussed for US subs and make a few ships 100% female.

But unless the upper ranks were dominated by RMN loaned officers I think they'd have moved to more integrated ships (with maybe compartment by compartment gender separation) before they had enough GSN females of sufficient seniority to fill all the senior enlisted and officer posts.
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Re: Rachel Mayhew
Post by ldwechsler   » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:29 am

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Jonathan_S wrote:
ldwechsler wrote:With more female crews, the GSN will have to adapt. Either relax the rules or set up some crew space specifically for woman...the way the US does on some ships.

Or they could have done what has occasionally been discussed for US subs and make a few ships 100% female.

But unless the upper ranks were dominated by RMN loaned officers I think they'd have moved to more integrated ships (with maybe compartment by compartment gender separation) before they had enough GSN females of sufficient seniority to fill all the senior enlisted and officer posts.


That's the point. Yes, we see more Grayson women but we have not seen anything about their quarters.

By the way, can you think of a better way to find a husband? Usually there are far more women than men in any social situation. Here there are far fewer women. Talk about a great recruiting tool!
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Re: Rachel Mayhew
Post by jtg452   » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:14 pm

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HoS states that the Graysons are including gender separate quarters in their new construction. That, and energy weapons, are the major differences between equivalent Manty and Grayson designs
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