YILDUN - such a tough nut to crack

kzt wrote:

runsforcelery wrote:That's so mean.

You really think those nice Mesa people would do that to their Manticoran friends? Truly?!

Well, you know, yes.

Though if I was an MA honcho I’d have sent a couple of ships to go chase down unexploded missiles post BoM 1. Might not have worked, but it might have worked and is worth the attempt. I’d probably go after RHN missiles if I had to choose only one, they a much more likely to be immediately ready to duplicate, and without that reactor more likely to not go boom when it should.

JohnRoth wrote:Pair each one with a Mycroft control station and throw in a lot of Ghost Rider drones, and you've got the system interdicted.

kzt wrote:There are no fancy huge grav sensors that the RMN has access to in Yildun, and the control centers and pods are essentially stationary. So if you knew there were a huge number of extremely valuable artifacts close to the hyper limit of an allied system, someone could tell you exactly where they were and you had the ability to send invisible ships in what would you do?

runsforcelery wrote:That's so mean.

You really think those nice Mesa people would do that to their Manticoran friends? Truly?!

JohnRoth wrote:

JohnRoth wrote:Pair each one with a Mycroft control station and throw in a lot of Ghost Rider drones, and you've got the system interdicted.

kzt wrote:There are no fancy huge grav sensors that the RMN has access to in Yildun, and the control centers and pods are essentially stationary. So if you knew there were a huge number of extremely valuable artifacts close to the hyper limit of an allied system, someone could tell you exactly where they were and you had the ability to send invisible ships in what would you do?

JohnRoth wrote:

JohnRoth wrote:Pair each one with a Mycroft control station and throw in a lot of Ghost Rider drones, and you've got the system interdicted.

kzt wrote:There are no fancy huge grav sensors that the RMN has access to in Yildun, and the control centers and pods are essentially stationary. So if you knew there were a huge number of extremely valuable artifacts close to the hyper limit of an allied system, someone could tell you exactly where they were and you had the ability to send invisible ships in what would you do?

ldwexhsler wrote:The Manticore fleet has used its tech superiority to take down major bases before.Think about Trevor's star. That was very well-manned while Yildun probably is not. Send in stealthed drones and then from as long a range as possible send in the pods.

pappilon wrote:

cthia wrote:
About Technodyne, your point (2) regarding the effect of collapsing Technodyne would be a good thing, no?

However (3) has always been a source of my discomfort. Technodyne doesn't know what's going on in the Haven sector -- or rather they didn't, which begs the question of whether their design limitations aren't inherent, but rather are rooted in perception instead of conception. IOW, now that the SLN has informed them of the range of Manty missiles that they are now looking into the matter and it will only be a matter of time. Which also makes one appreciate the RMN's policy from the beginning of never unveiling Apollo's true range. As my sister is fond of saying, "There are spies amongst the flies on the wall."

(1) IFF all of Teledyne's manufacturing, R&D etc is solely located at Yildun, Taking Yildun collapses Technodyne. textev suggests such is not the case. If you seize corporate HQ you deal the corporaton a blow, but the pieces should be able to continue as long as the orders and payments come pouring in.

(2) Granted Technodyne does not know how whatever is going on is going on. However we have 2 neobarbs hurtling rocks at each other. (A) IIRC in the beginning it was Plucky Little Manticore about to be crushed by the Evil Empire of Haven. Then suddenly Manticore the-not-so-plucky-little ws handing the EE its head in every engagement.(B) EE starts cadging tech from the suppliers to the biggest baddest a-number-1 fleet in the known universe. Big cheer goes up: Now those thevin' connivin' cargo stealin' Manties will get theirs. Except ... they don't. If Technodyne does not have a clue that something is going on then (C) there is a cessation of hostilities and when it resumes EE is no longer interested in your top=of=the-line tech. yet the war goes on.

Granted the SLN is clueless, who cares about two neobarbs throwing rocks at each other? Technodyne knows what is going on, it is probably not ignoring all those observers, they did develop pods for system defense after all. Even Haven and her tech witchiness have trouble reverse engineering Manty tech. they figure out what but do their own thing about how.

Yes the supplier of munitions et al to the biggest baddest fleet in the universe is a little myopic, the SLN has no real interest in weapons development besides tweaks in electronics, materials, etc. Technodyne has no monetary interest in developing new and exotic weapons systems that the only conceivable purchaser does not want. Without the fear of being engulfed by ... anyone, there is no perceived need for spending relatively scarce money on spurious R&D programs.

Eagleeye wrote:As far as I can remember, the missile range from rest, if you only fire the 3 drives one after another without any ballistic phase included, is somehow around 64 million kilometers. Honor herself conceded to Tourville (in MoH, I think), that he was out of effective range of her ships in the BoMa, because he was around a 100 million kilometers away. And even for the attack against Admiral Chin in the same battle, Honor needed a ballistic segment - and Chin was no more than 72.93 million kilometers away (according to AaC, Chapter 68)

cthia wrote:Cannot several stealthed drones be embedded into the system to keep an eye on the henhouse to see where the special eggs are being lain and hatched -- the pods, military habitats, freighter deliveries and the like?

"Seems these drones've been some very busy little bees, Captain."

Loren Pechtel wrote:And when you know where the important military stuff is ...