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Solarian warships/tech : "What is possible!"
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by Mamalecki
» Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:01 pm
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I have been reading the most recent books of the main line series, the crown of slaves, and the shadow of sangami(?) Series. I was thinking now that the solarian League has missile pods can they down size the pods to fit in there LAC's with counter missiles. As a means of increase the CM fire in a system they control.
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by kzt
» Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:30 pm
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They probably could. But they don't have LACS, or CM pods, or carriers or doctrine. So it's possible, but not now.
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by Mamalecki
» Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:29 pm
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I think they might have some LAC's. I am not sure if they make them. After all the customs patrol LAC's in Congo were made somewhere. Most likely for smaller systems in the League to have custom patrol ships. possibly built by technodyne.
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by cthia
» Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:38 pm
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I think I recall something about SLN LACs as well. But that they didn't resemble anything like the Haven sector LACs. They were slow, of course they had none of the advances, and I'm not sure what they were armed with. If at all. I think SLN LACS stand for Light Ass Crap But that was eons ago, I think. They probably have the design still. But is as useless as their capital ships. Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by Mamalecki
» Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:33 am
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They are most likely outdated old school CRAP but if equipped with CM pod's and stuffed into a cargo ship or attached to a hull. The solarian League might consider it as a way to increase the CM density at a relatively cheap cost. Also the poor ECM would aid there ship's by being better decoy's ( though they wouldn't tell the crew that) all in the hopes of improving there ships survivability until energy range. I think in one of the anthology books it mentions a Andy SD tractoring a pair of there lac to the hull to a different system. If say 90 solarian SD's we're to do that they would gain 180 counter missile platforms that yes would be expanded quickly but would gain there ship's a little more time. Perhaps when trying to take back a wormhole Junction against lighter Grand Alliance forces?
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by Weird Harold
» Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:14 am
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RFC has said that we will not see "CM pods." We shall see if that applies only to the Haven Sector navies, or it is a blanket exclusion.
Thunder of God towed Masadan LACs to Grayson in Honor of the Queen. Howle Sowle (sp) transported two Torch Navy frigates on her hull... Abigail Hearnes commanded two RMN pinnaces tractored to two Nuncio LACs ... Those are the only instances I recall of one ship tractoring another to its hull. The Imperial Anderman Navy had "half-pods" mounted on racks, but I don't recall them tractoring anything to their hulls. It is possible that we might see a SDF put out LACs towing one or more Cataphract(-C?) pods to surprise an invading task-force. I doubt that we will see anything of the sort from Battle Fleet or that it would be terribly effective if we do. Solarian LACs and pods -- even the newest Cataphract pods -- don't have the built-in stealth that RMN and RHN lacs and pods do. It is extremely doubtful that the SLN knows that or that they will survive long enough to correct the deficiency. .
. . Answers! I got lots of answers! (Now if I could just find the right questions.) |
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by Jonathan_S
» Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:27 am
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I'm pretty sure Mamalecki is thinking of Timothy zahn's short story An Act of War from the In Fire Forged anthology. (A Charles story). The IAN SD Derfflinger did tractor a couple LACs to herself.
I'd forgotten that, but it seemed the likely place to check because I do remember then employing the LACs for so I went back and did a quick search to see how the LACs got there. |
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by Theemile
» Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:12 pm
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Focusing on issues we know the SLN knows about, I can see the SLN focusing on increasing their firecontrol, cm and podlaying abilities.
How? Well, one thought comes to mind is a modification of what they are already doing - plugging missile tubes for firecontrol. Previously, we saw the Aegis systems, plugging 1 BC or SD missile tube with a fire control module and dedicating another tube for firing canisters of CMs - all to thicken ship's defenses. In the Mayan forces, we see Shipkiller firecontrol plugs - maybe this too came from the SLN. Taking a BC's broadside armament, and plugging 1/3 of the tubes with Aegis plugs and 1/3 with shipkiller tubes, would give a quick "control ship" upgrade to a BC. But where would the Missiles come from? A BC can only carry a dozen or so missile pods. What if the SLN grabbed fast minelayers, which are usually BC sized, and have a moderate defensive suite of their own, and filled them full of Cataphract pods. If they have shipkillers - 50% of their tubes could be plugged with Aegis plugs for more CM capability. And so, run groups of 4 BCs and 4 fast minelayers as raiders. I'm not saying it's a good idea; but it is an achievable idea, now, that instantly updates their overall combat capability. Most importantly, it is an upgrade they know they need and the parts are laying around available. After they have some run ins with killer LACS in the near future, I think we will see some merchie hulls moded to carry LACS, and LACS quickly moded to be CM mules. LAC types will fly out of production capabilities quickly, each more capable, some better than others. ******
RFC said "refitting a Beowulfan SD to Manticoran standards would be just as difficult as refitting a standard SLN SD to those standards. In other words, it would be cheaper and faster to build new ships." |
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by kzt
» Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:15 pm
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Given the SLN missile tubes are pretty much worthless for firing missiles you don't really need to worry about covering them up with pods. The only time you'll need them is to fire CM canisters, and the pods will be gone by then.
In the same way, do you need the energy weapons? No, so cover them up with pods too. |
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by Mamalecki
» Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:27 pm
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It would make sense for the SLN to replace capitalship energy weapons with fire control an replace some with PDL clusters. I don't think you could replace them with CM launcher due to the fact they have no magazine space at energy weapons emplacements.
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