Did any members of the Manticoran Alliance join the GA?

Still, if someone had told her she and Pritchart could accomplish this much, agree to this much, in only seven days, she would have suggested they be confined in a nice, safe cell. Yes, there were still huge gray areas, but what they'd gotten down in written form proved that knowing one was about to be hanged (or invaded by the Solarian League) truly did concentrate one's mind wonderfully. This treaty, rough as it was, created an alliance between the Star Empire of Manticore and the Republic of Haven which committed each of them to the defense of the other. There hadn't been time —with one exception — to consult with the Star Empire's allies, but Eloise had been careful to bring every one of those allies' ambassadors on board, and most of them had initialed the draft on their governments' behalfs. The Andermani ambassador hadn't, yet that was hardly surprising, given the traditional Andermani realpolitik. By the same token (and for the same reasons), he hadn't voiced any official opposition to it, either, though, and the Andermani Empire was an "associated power" rather than a full member of the Manticoran Alliance, anyway.

Rednek731 wrote:ah, thank you for pointing that out. I honestly don't know how I missed that.

Duckk wrote:The passage from ART suggests that most were at least willing to jump onboard:

Still, if someone had told her she and Pritchart could accomplish this much, agree to this much, in only seven days, she would have suggested they be confined in a nice, safe cell. Yes, there were still huge gray areas, but what they'd gotten down in written form proved that knowing one was about to be hanged (or invaded by the Solarian League) truly did concentrate one's mind wonderfully. This treaty, rough as it was, created an alliance between the Star Empire of Manticore and the Republic of Haven which committed each of them to the defense of the other. There hadn't been time —with one exception — to consult with the Star Empire's allies, but Eloise had been careful to bring every one of those allies' ambassadors on board, and most of them had initialed the draft on their governments' behalfs. The Andermani ambassador hadn't, yet that was hardly surprising, given the traditional Andermani realpolitik. By the same token (and for the same reasons), he hadn't voiced any official opposition to it, either, though, and the Andermani Empire was an "associated power" rather than a full member of the Manticoran Alliance, anyway.

Duckk wrote:The passage from ART suggests that most were at least willing to jump onboard:

Still, if someone had told her she and Pritchart could accomplish this much, agree to this much, in only seven days, she would have suggested they be confined in a nice, safe cell. Yes, there were still huge gray areas, but what they'd gotten down in written form proved that knowing one was about to be hanged (or invaded by the Solarian League) truly did concentrate one's mind wonderfully. This treaty, rough as it was, created an alliance between the Star Empire of Manticore and the Republic of Haven which committed each of them to the defense of the other. There hadn't been time —with one exception — to consult with the Star Empire's allies, but Eloise had been careful to bring every one of those allies' ambassadors on board, and most of them had initialed the draft on their governments' behalfs. The Andermani ambassador hadn't, yet that was hardly surprising, given the traditional Andermani realpolitik. By the same token (and for the same reasons), he hadn't voiced any official opposition to it, either, though, and the Andermani Empire was an "associated power" rather than a full member of the Manticoran Alliance, anyway.

ldwechsler wrote:Makes sense. When the big guys start fighting, the little guys need some form of shelter. Why would Zanzibar or Casca want to be on its own? Talk about a great target for commerce raiding.

Jonathan_S wrote:

ldwechsler wrote:Makes sense. When the big guys start fighting, the little guys need some form of shelter. Why would Zanzibar or Casca want to be on its own? Talk about a great target for commerce raiding.

Not unless Manticore took their system defense installations with them when they left the alliance.

The scale of fixed defenses that we saw during the last Havenite raid on Zanzibar would wreck multiple battle squadrons of wallers, much less anything that would plausibly be deployed for commerce raiding.

Still, staying in the alliance ensures continued RMN support for those system defenses, and probably puts you in a good position to benefit from the economic advantages of peace and new trade inside the Haven quadrant. (And the downsides seem minor - you're not much more likely to be attacking as a signed member of the GA than you are as someone known to have been associated with 'renegade' Manticore.