Whatever happened to Byng's people in New Tuscany?

ThisName1 wrote:If Maitland Askew is still there I wonder how many times he's said "I told you so!"

Brigade XO wrote:If the current Senior Officer of what was Bing's force was going to organize getting his people away from New Tucsany, that more likely would have been to the nearest FF station. If they couldn't hire locally for a specific trip (or several given the size of the contingent to be moved) they do have a couple of options. This presumes they were not told to maintain the personel there in anticipation of one or more repair ships being sent to fix the ships with slagged computers.

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Of course, where to put them if a non-beligerent flagged ship shows up with 60 FF naval personel is a good question. Perhaps dump them on the inhabited planet of the system associated with the wormhole and tell them to charge SL for thier upkeep (and safekeeping, you arn't going to want them running around loose).

ThisName1 wrote:If Maitland Askew is still there I wonder how many times he's said "I told you so!"

Jonathan_S wrote:

Eagleeye wrote:But they are. Ok, at least theoretically possible would've been some kind of repatriation effort for the crews by Sol-based SLN units via the Manticore Junction - after the League got the message, and before Crandall came calling. After all, the League and the Star Empire were, officially at least, at peace, and it would be considered a humantarian effort to smooth the waves of the Byng-desaster. But there's no mention at all for such an effort; and the vessels would've to remain at New Tuscany, nonetheless.

Now, in Honorverse present time, there's no way they could go back to SLN-Territory. So, with >99.999% probability - they're still at New Tuscany and remain there.

I agree that most of them are likely still guests at New Tuscany but I'd put the likelyhood more like 60%.

The repatriation wouldn't have needed to go through the Manticoran wormhole, it'd have taken longer but they could have been brought home through the Mesa wormhole instead of Lynx to Manticore to Beowulf.
I'd be surprised if Crandal, who after all was moving through the area towards Spindal didn't divert at least a couple destroyers to pick up key personnel and take them back to the League for in-person debriefing. And even after the disaster at Spindle if any of the escorts or supply train got away I don't think there was any RMN force at New Tuscany to stop them from grabbing Byng's survivors on their way back to the League. (OTOH they may will not have been willing to risk it).

I doubt Crandal would have detached enough tonnage to move all of them back to the League before she attacked Spindle though.

munroburton wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hors_de_combat

Aside from Byng's flagship(which blew up with all hands), that force was pure Frontier Fleet and whilst a figure of 36,000 spacers might look impressive to any individual - the entire SLN has something like 20 to 30 million spacers. Two and a half of which they lost later at Second Manticore(along with half a million at Spindle).

SLN HQ has bigger problems to worry about. Also, those frontier fleet personnel wouldn't be heading back to Sol - they'd go to the nearest major fleet base, or as other posters have said, Meyers. No way the Mandarins would let any of them set foot on Earth or stay in the Sol system.

In any case, I can't imagine many of them are eager to return to Solarian space with Byng's disgrace hanging over them. Imagine being reassigned and their new shipmates finding out they were at New Tuscany. Brr.

munroburton wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hors_de_combat

Aside from Byng's flagship(which blew up with all hands), that force was pure Frontier Fleet and whilst a figure of 36,000 spacers might look impressive to any individual - the entire SLN has something like 20 to 30 million spacers. Two and a half of which they lost later at Second Manticore(along with half a million at Spindle).

SLN HQ has bigger problems to worry about. Also, those frontier fleet personnel wouldn't be heading back to Sol - they'd go to the nearest major fleet base, or as other posters have said, Meyers. No way the Mandarins would let any of them set foot on Earth or stay in the Sol system.

In any case, I can't imagine many of them are eager to return to Solarian space with Byng's disgrace hanging over them. Imagine being reassigned and their new shipmates finding out they were at New Tuscany. Brr.

munroburton wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hors_de_combat

Aside from Byng's flagship(which blew up with all hands), that force was pure Frontier Fleet and whilst a figure of 36,000 spacers might look impressive to any individual - the entire SLN has something like 20 to 30 million spacers. Two and a half of which they lost later at Second Manticore(along with half a million at Spindle).

SLN HQ has bigger problems to worry about. Also, those frontier fleet personnel wouldn't be heading back to Sol - they'd go to the nearest major fleet base, or as other posters have said, Meyers. No way the Mandarins would let any of them set foot on Earth or stay in the Sol system.

In any case, I can't imagine many of them are eager to return to Solarian space with Byng's disgrace hanging over them. Imagine being reassigned and their new shipmates finding out they were at New Tuscany. Brr.

munroburton wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hors_de_combat

Aside from Byng's flagship(which blew up with all hands), that force was pure Frontier Fleet and whilst a figure of 36,000 spacers might look impressive to any individual - the entire SLN has something like 20 to 30 million spacers. Two and a half of which they lost later at Second Manticore(along with half a million at Spindle).

SLN HQ has bigger problems to worry about. Also, those frontier fleet personnel wouldn't be heading back to Sol - they'd go to the nearest major fleet base, or as other posters have said, Meyers. No way the Mandarins would let any of them set foot on Earth or stay in the Sol system.

In any case, I can't imagine many of them are eager to return to Solarian space with Byng's disgrace hanging over them. Imagine being reassigned and their new shipmates finding out they were at New Tuscany. Brr.

munroburton wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hors_de_combat

Aside from Byng's flagship(which blew up with all hands), that force was pure Frontier Fleet and whilst a figure of 36,000 spacers might look impressive to any individual - the entire SLN has something like 20 to 30 million spacers. Two and a half of which they lost later at Second Manticore(along with half a million at Spindle).

SLN HQ has bigger problems to worry about. Also, those frontier fleet personnel wouldn't be heading back to Sol - they'd go to the nearest major fleet base, or as other posters have said, Meyers. No way the Mandarins would let any of them set foot on Earth or stay in the Sol system.

In any case, I can't imagine many of them are eager to return to Solarian space with Byng's disgrace hanging over them. Imagine being reassigned and their new shipmates finding out they were at New Tuscany. Brr.