SLN Reserve

Worse yet, imagine the fun you'll have loading the gold bars on the pallets to be moved. how big a crew do you have?

zuluwiz wrote:Worse yet, imagine the fun you'll have loading the gold bars on the pallets to be moved. how big a crew do you have?

Biiiiiig.

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A semi trailer (in the United States) can hold a maximum of 80,000 pounds. A semi trailer 53 feet long contains 3,816 cubic feet of space.

Found a site that listed the max for Canada as 62500kg for a B train, and 55500kg for a single semi trailer max load.

However, that´s not the same as max load being a GOOD IDEA. Regardless what shape the gold is in, stacking it safely and quickly is not an easy matter.

Vince wrote:

kzt wrote:40,000 pounds per semi is "full". That's why you need 500.

A semi trailer (in the United States) can hold a maximum of 80,000 pounds. A semi trailer 53 feet long contains 3,816 cubic feet of space.

Sorry, but 40,000 pounds would be closer to the cargo weight. The common 80,000 pound weight is the GCVW which is the maximum allowed weight of truck, trailer, and cargo. I figured the estimate of 20 pallets was 1 ton per pallet, and with a cargo of gold, there will be a lot of air in the trailer.

Depending on the weight of the trailer the max payload could easily be 30,000 pounds.

Castenea wrote:Sorry, but 40,000 pounds would be closer to the cargo weight. The common 80,000 pound weight is the GCVW which is the maximum allowed weight of truck, trailer, and cargo. I figured the estimate of 20 pallets was 1 ton per pallet, and with a cargo of gold, there will be a lot of air in the trailer.

Depending on the weight of the trailer the max payload could easily be 30,000 pounds.

That sounds a lot more reasonable. Wonder why they can´t just be clearer with load vs total weight in the documents i found. *hmpf*

Tenshinai wrote:

Castenea wrote:Sorry, but 40,000 pounds would be closer to the cargo weight. The common 80,000 pound weight is the GCVW which is the maximum allowed weight of truck, trailer, and cargo. I figured the estimate of 20 pallets was 1 ton per pallet, and with a cargo of gold, there will be a lot of air in the trailer.

Depending on the weight of the trailer the max payload could easily be 30,000 pounds.

That sounds a lot more reasonable. Wonder why they can´t just be clearer with load vs total weight in the documents i found. *hmpf*

Most big rigs with a single trailer top out at about 34,000 lbs. You can also have double and triple trails also, and you can also toss in Australia's land trains or road trains which in some area can have as many as six trailers.

Back on track a bit here, I think some one earlier touched on the point I'm going to make: Why does the SL need the battlefleet to picket most any core world system?

Remember, for centuries, the core worlds have been at peace. They have Frontier Fleet to keep the verge and the shell complacent. If a pirate did decide to start raiding core worlds, the core world will have some sort of system defenses; missiles, lacs, a few destroyers. Whatever. Some low level of system defense which is beyond the common raider which would require a significant raiding force to be effective. And remember, pirates make money off of capturing ships and cargo, not raiding the infrastructure of a system.

There are thousands of inhabited planets in the SL, too many for battlefleet to picket every one of the core planets with SDs, let alone to picket them all and have decent protection around their reserve units.

So...

1. Battlefleet is not going to penny packet out their SDs, or even their smaller line ships. None of the admirals want to be in command of a squadron of two ships.
2. The SL core worlds have been at peace for a long time. System defense forces are small and mostly there to discourage raiders and pirates, not to project power on to their neighbors. BF is sort of a deterrent to prevent neighboring systems from getting adventuresome over old disagreements.
3. Right along with 2, the core worlds are relatively safe from any sort of attack, even the shell is by extension and the verge has Frontier Fleet to help them. But the Sili pirates aren't going into the SL, nor are any of the major players sending raids in to the SL. There's no outside presence from the SL that wants to wake up the sleeping gorilla. (ignoring the MAlign of course, who knows what a paper hexapuma the SL really is)
4. The reserve is stated to be mothballed/stored away in a handful of systems. No more than a dozen.

I would suggest that the BF forces don't protect very many systems at all. They sit at anchorage mostly, patting themselves on the back about how great they are and no one can ever defeat the mighty Battlefleet. Or they swan around from one major fleet anchorage to another, putting a little wear time on their nodes and making like their doing something important. Maybe show the flag in a few places along the way.

The only action they get is when they conduct fleet exercises. Something we know they do, though hardly ever outside the core. I'd be willing to wager they don't do very many live fire tests. After all, we know we have the best missiles in the universe, the best hardware and doctrine. No one can beat us. Why waste the money?

Most like each major base has some permanent Battlefleet presence, like protecting the reserve ships, tying down a significant percentage of Battlefleet. Maybe a third of it, leaving the rest to do whatever.

Within reason, I would have thought that BF bases would tend to be located at wormholes, especially junctions, and that each base would have a part of the reserve there.
Well, core world junctions/termini anyway.

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Annachie wrote:Within reason, I would have thought that BF bases would tend to be located at wormholes, especially junctions, and that each base would have a part of the reserve there.
Well, core world junctions/termini anyway.

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In theory that is a reasonable consideration, in practice a fleet base and the assosiated infrastructure present a nice economic boost and offers a lot of opportunities to make money....

LadyWhirlwind wrote:

Annachie wrote:Within reason, I would have thought that BF bases would tend to be located at wormholes, especially junctions, and that each base would have a part of the reserve there.
Well, core world junctions/termini anyway.

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In theory that is a reasonable consideration, in practice a fleet base and the assosiated infrastructure present a nice economic boost and offers a lot of opportunities to make money....

Also we're told that the Core has very few wormholes. One we know of is the terminus at Beowolf and there's obviously no SLN fleet anchorage there...

Jonathan_S wrote:

LadyWhirlwind wrote:[quote="Annachie"Within reason, I would have thought that BF bases would tend to be located at wormholes, especially junctions, and that each base would have a part of the reserve there.
Well, core world junctions/termini anyway.

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In theory that is a reasonable consideration, in practice a fleet base and the assosiated infrastructure present a nice economic boost and offers a lot of opportunities to make money....

Also we're told that the Core has very few wormholes. One we know of is the terminus at Beowolf and there's obviously no SLN fleet anchorage there...

There's also Visigoth. Which has its own SDF and is secretly a part of the Mesan Alignment. It's an unlikely host for a SLN fleet base.

The SL was formed two centuries before the first wormhole was discovered. Although the latter was well before institutional rot set into the SLN, they would have established their major core bases by then.