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by Tenshinai
» Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:43 pm
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Heh, even if i COULD vote many times here, all it would do would be to make an annoyance for the people counting, as only my last vote actually counts(this is taken into account for mail votes and stuff like that). |
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by Daryl
» Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:22 pm
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A big deal for Australia at the moment, but probably not even on the radar in the US, is a dispute between our PM and Trump over a refugee swap.
Previously agreed with the Obama administration, it basically was a swap of over a thousand refugees each. We would send our "boat people" who are in a concentration camp offshore on Nauru Island to the US, while the US would send South American detainees (mainly Puerto Rican?) to us. Not logical but meant that both governments would honour their pledge that "None would enter our country" which they felt would encourage more. Exactly how access to either of the world's two most desirable countries to live in was much different wasn't explained. The phone conversation didn't go well. Knowing the personalities it's not surprising. Our PM is fairly useless in the role, but is an internationally acclaimed lawyer, urbane, sophisticated, a gentleman who plays by the rules, but a tedious waffler. Trump is a bare knuckled brawler who has no manners and few ethics. The PM expected an adult discussion and basically got told to go elsewhere and fornicate. Watch this space. |
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by dscott8
» Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:57 pm
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Puerto Ricans are US citizens. Puerto Rico is a US Territory. |
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by Annachie
» Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:02 am
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I never really understood the deal myself.
Kellyanne Conway. Every time she opens her mouth it seems a new low in Bull Shittery emerged. But the memes, lol. Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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by WeirdlyWired
» Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:00 am
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Can't find anything about US detainees being exchanged for those held in New Guinea. Everythinh coming out of the White Hoise should mostly be considered either alternative facts produced by the alternative right, deliberate misinformation or Trumps way to actually open a dialogue with ... pretty much anybody. Or just trial balloons Helas,chou, Je m'en fache.
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by biochem
» Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:08 pm
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That's her job. All presidents have someone whose job is to do this. With Trump as president, she'll deserve an academy award after 4 years of this. |
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by ksandgren
» Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:40 pm
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After all her years with Brietbart, this is just a continuation of her alternate facts, but in a wider forum where most people see it as BS and respond with the vitriol it deserves. |
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by Annachie
» Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:40 am
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WW, I suspect the White House are really in 2 minds over the deal.
Simply put, if I understand it correctly, it allowed both countries to settle refugee's (who granted are also technically illegal's) in a decent country without settling them in their target Oz/US which both governments had sworn not to do. In Trump's case it crosses his own domestic agenda, viz the EO's. In Turnbull's, it gets him out (a little bit) of a sticky situation that his party's far right has stuck him with. I can't see Trump doing it though, without throwing in so many conditions that it wont work. So I suspect we are getting serious mixed messages about it. Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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by WeirdlyWired
» Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:31 am
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2 minds  More like Multiple Personalities
Yes they are illegals trying to gain enty to AU to request refugee status. And New Guinea is perfect. Trump nly accepts those that request entry to Us then gets to strenuously vet them. and can refuse entry to any and all. which he could have done without all the attacking of the AU PM and other posturing. All a horse-and-pony show for the masses to keep his ratings up. and hopefully ahead of The New Celebrity Apprentice starring The Arnold. Helas,chou, Je m'en fache.
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by Daryl
» Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:21 am
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We have an interesting (to us) political situation here at present.
Our sort of equivalent to the tea party (One Nation) has risen from 5% in the last election to 8% in the polls (buoyed by the new order of Trump sweeping the world, yeah right), so the ultra conservative rump of our conservative party (called the Liberals, long story) has decided to secede to get a slice of that bounty. This has not exactly enthused the sane members of the conservative party, as they were already well behind Labor (equiv to Democrats) in the polls. Splitting their vote even more is daft. On our blogs and chat rooms it seems that the problem is caused by group speak. If the only people you talk to have similar views, then you believe the "silent majority" does. Incidentally we have compulsory voting, so the real majority votes anyway, unlike the US. Interesting times. Has Trump called your Constitution false news yet? |
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