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Hope & Aspirations for the Finale

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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by Lord Skimper   » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:14 pm

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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by n7axw   » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:22 pm

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Are we saying that the next book is the final book of the Honorverse, or the final book of the current story arc?

Those are two very different things. I could see dealing with the MAlign as being the thrust of a new story arc. It seems that after the buildup that the conflict with the Malign got esp. since Shadow of Saganami, just droping it is cruel and unusual punishment for the reader...

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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by JohnRoth   » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:44 pm

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n7axw wrote:Are we saying that the next book is the final book of the Honorverse, or the final book of the current story arc?

Those are two very different things. I could see dealing with the MAlign as being the thrust of a new story arc. It seems that after the buildup that the conflict with the Malign got esp. since Shadow of Saganami, just droping it is cruel and unusual punishment for the reader...

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Final book of the current story arc. Himself has mooted the idea of starting another series, but the last I heard he'd decided against it. There still may be books filling in things or talking about certain characters, like Honor's father's career in the Biological Survey Corps.
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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by kzt   » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:41 am

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JohnRoth wrote:There still may be books filling in things or talking about certain characters, like Honor's father's career in the Biological Survey Corps.

Well, that would be interesting. Particularly as he was never in the BSC as far as I know, being a Manticoran citizen.
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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by Theemile   » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:50 pm

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kzt wrote:
JohnRoth wrote:There still may be books filling in things or talking about certain characters, like Honor's father's career in the Biological Survey Corps.

Well, that would be interesting. Particularly as he was never in the BSC as far as I know, being a Manticoran citizen.


I had heard the story was supposed to tell his story of his time in the Marine Corp, especially the event which drove him to become a doctor to fix the neuro damage he saw (which was discussed in brief in Beginnings)

Uncle Jacques was in the BSC, I never saw it mentioned that Alfred went back into the black ops side after he chose the path to become a doctor (which he was on when he met Jacques and Allison).
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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by saber964   » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:11 pm

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Theemile wrote:
kzt wrote:quote="JohnRoth"]There still may be books filling in things or talking about certain characters, like Honor's father's career in the Biological Survey Corps.

Well, that would be interesting. Particularly as he was never in the BSC as far as I know, being a Manticoran citizen.


I had heard the story was supposed to tell his story of his time in the Marine Corp, especially the event which drove him to become a doctor to fix the neuro damage he saw (which was discussed in brief in Beginnings)

Uncle Jacques was in the BSC, I never saw it mentioned that Alfred went back into the black ops side after he chose the path to become a doctor (which he was on when he met Jacques and Allison).[/quote]

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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by cthia   » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:16 am

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n7axw wrote:Are we saying that the next book is the final book of the Honorverse, or the final book of the current story arc?

Those are two very different things. I could see dealing with the MAlign as being the thrust of a new story arc. It seems that after the buildup that the conflict with the Malign got esp. since Shadow of Saganami, just droping it is cruel and unusual punishment for the reader...

Don

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I thought the bell tolls for an end of the Honorverse storyline. Which to me implies an end to Honor. I have this stinking sinking drinking feeling that I'm going to lose my baby through some temporary insanity of the author's or perhaps because of some errant MAlign nanite somehow cross contaminating and affecting the author...

which, by the way...

was part and parcel behind the reasoning of the EEV thread, to safely remove Honor from the equation without killing her.

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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by JohnRoth   » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:34 pm

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cthia wrote:
n7axw wrote:Are we saying that the next book is the final book of the Honorverse, or the final book of the current story arc?

Those are two very different things. I could see dealing with the MAlign as being the thrust of a new story arc. It seems that after the buildup that the conflict with the Malign got esp. since Shadow of Saganami, just droping it is cruel and unusual punishment for the reader...

Don

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I thought the bell tolls for an end of the Honorverse storyline. Which to me implies an end to Honor. I have this stinking sinking drinking feeling that I'm going to lose my baby through some temporary insanity of the author's or perhaps because of some errant MAlign nanite somehow cross contaminating and affecting the author...

which, by the way...

was part and parcel behind the reasoning of the EEV thread, to safely remove Honor from the equation without killing her.


I see no obvious reason for Himself to kill off Honor at this time. There's no point to it. She's too senior to be getting her hands in the really interesting stuff.
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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by JohnRoth   » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:37 pm

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JohnRoth wrote:There still may be books filling in things or talking about certain characters, like Honor's father's career in the Biological Survey Corps.


kzt wrote:Well, that would be interesting. Particularly as he was never in the BSC as far as I know, being a Manticoran citizen.


Theemile wrote:I had heard the story was supposed to tell his story of his time in the Marine Corp, especially the event which drove him to become a doctor to fix the neuro damage he saw (which was discussed in brief in Beginnings)

Uncle Jacques was in the BSC, I never saw it mentioned that Alfred went back into the black ops side after he chose the path to become a doctor (which he was on when he met Jacques and Allison).


Yeah, I confused the two. Both stories would make interesting reading for some people. I am not one of them.
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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by robert132   » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:51 pm

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JohnRoth wrote:
cthia wrote:I thought the bell tolls for an end of the Honorverse storyline. Which to me implies an end to Honor. I have this stinking sinking drinking feeling that I'm going to lose my baby through some temporary insanity of the author's or perhaps because of some errant MAlign nanite somehow cross contaminating and affecting the author...

which, by the way...

was part and parcel behind the reasoning of the EEV thread, to safely remove Honor from the equation without killing her.


I see no obvious reason for Himself to kill off Honor at this time. There's no point to it. She's too senior to be getting her hands in the really interesting stuff.


Unless she's either grounded in Landing or her Steading on Grayson as the equivalent of Chief of Naval Operations for either (or both?) Navies she will be a Fleet Commander in much the same situation as Halsey or Nelson, she's going to be out there in Harm's Way with a deck under her feet just as Admiral Goldpeak is.

If / when 8th Fleet goes hunting for "Peak Bear" she will be right there in the middle of it, doing her job with the same courage, skill and leadership we've seen all through her career.

And if her career finally ends as Nelson's did she will go out doing what she does best, kicking the HELL out of her nation's enemies.

Not such a bad way for a warship sailor to go and I think this is the kind of end Himself had in mind for her originally.
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