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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by PeterZ   » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:57 pm

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It could also be that pejoratives such as racist, sexist and homophobe are so overused that they can mean anyone that breathes, even enlightened Australian Immigration Ministers. The use of those terms is so loose, one doubts its veracity ANY time it is used in politics.

That's where political correctness has led us.
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by WeirdlyWired   » Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:12 pm

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PeterZ wrote:It could also be that pejoratives such as racist, sexist and homophobe are so overused that they can mean anyone that breathes, even enlightened Australian Immigration Ministers. The use of those terms is so loose, one doubts its veracity ANY time it is used in politics.

That's where political correctness has led us.


UH ... Didn't George Orwell post a pretty damning essay about governments manipulating the language as propaganda, like back in the late 1940s? To blame it on "Political Correctness, is a bit historically short sighted. Not to say that recent events by many on both sides of the political divide haven't hastened the process.
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by biochem   » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:36 pm

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Interesting (if long) take on Trump=racist

http://bit.ly/2f3iTxB
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by biochem   » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:41 pm

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Interestingly, the I hate both of them voting block overwhelmingly voted Trump at the end.
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by PeterZ   » Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:13 am

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biochem wrote:Interesting (if long) take on Trump=racist

http://bit.ly/2f3iTxB


That was right on!
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by Tenshinai   » Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:46 pm

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Annachie wrote:To just add to Tensh's comment about election ads.
Down here in Oz they are banned for the 3 days immediatly before the election.

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Even better!

Also California and Hawaii. But then it looks like the Cal earthquakes happened in counties that voted Trump.

Good prediction Jim.


:lol:

:mrgreen:

Seriously not suprised, but there are voting discrepencies being reported in swing states that sow districts that use electronic voting showed a 7% preference to Trump over districts that used paper.


Anyone even the slightest surprised?

Whilst it should not be used to question the resulst, though it likely will, it must be properly investigated.


It wont be. The original Diebold "scandal" was big news for 5 minutes or so, with great promises of how everything would be fixed and investigated. And then the company changed its name and everything was juuuust fine.
And the same voting machines are still in use, many with the exact same hardware AND software as the Australian hacker already proved he could get into with barely no effort and rig the result in almost any way he wanted.

Come to think of it, how well it is investigated will be more telling than any findings.


What does "not at all" tell you then? :|
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by Annachie   » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:06 pm

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No investigation tells us that the system was set up to disadvantage someone, or advantage someone, and that those in charge don't want to look at anything just in case.

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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by Tenshinai   » Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:42 am

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Annachie wrote:No investigation tells us that the system was set up to disadvantage someone, or advantage someone, and that those in charge don't want to look at anything just in case.

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2(that we know of) of the original owners were associates of the republican party with blatant links to the GWB administration.
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by smr   » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:19 pm

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1) Strange how they want to challenge the election results 2 weeks later.

Now, the guy that was saying the Russians interfered with election has said they did not. Could it be that Michigan does not have the computer based voting. Also, they have already done an automatic recount in Michigan and Trump still won. Now, Michigan has optical and paper ballot voting only. This means no chance of hacking the vote from the Internet.

2) Yesterday, the Obama administration has said the election was valid. (11/25/16)

3) Here's a pretty good website that explains how cheating occurs and how you can change the system or monitor the elections.

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by Annachie   » Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:36 am

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Well we know the russians did interfere, but honestly we don't know if it was by contract or government orders.
It seems everybody is contracting ... social media assistance these days. (Our government got caught using Indians for example)

As for fiddling with the machines, I really hope that isn't possible. It shouldn't be. Not without fiddling the machines before the election anyway.

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