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Re: Duckk said take Mrs Clinton\not in jail here.
Post by Annachie   » Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:10 am

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Wilful ignorance is so disapounting Peter.

Trump alone is being sued by 2 (correction it's gone to 3 recently) women who claimed Trump raped them when they were tweenagers.

There have been many high GOP elected reps done this year alone.
Stuff that actually made the news.

I recently tried to post the list of GOP pedophiles into a facebook comment.
It was too big.

(I should note, the list of Democrat pedo's is about a fifth the size)


PeterZ wrote:The only pedophilia investigation I am aware of is Huma Abadin's esteanged husband, Anthony Wiener. He is a Dem. Abedin is Hillary's chief aide.

He's not GOP.

Annachie wrote:Lol Peter.

After all the GOP pedophillia scandals to break, and not damage the GOP in the slightest, this year alone do you honestly expect anything to actually happen?

To either party.

About anything.

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Re: Duckk said take Mrs Clinton\not in jail here.
Post by Annachie   » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:32 am

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Reports are surfacing that the Trump campaign have been having secret, and secretive, communications with Alfa Bank. Owned by Russia's richest person who has close political toes to Putin.

Oops.

Also, the head of the FBI broke long standing protocol over that email thing.
Protocol he damn well knew and damn well was advised of by more than one person.
Looks like he's playing politics.

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Re: Duckk said take Mrs Clinton\not in jail here.
Post by WeirdlyWired   » Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:01 am

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PeterZ wrote: Reducing the scope of government is a good idea. Even so it will be far larger than it was 30 years ago let alone 200 years ago.

Are certain things better left to the private sector? Sure they are. Postal service is a good example. Our current bastardized version is just awful. True competition can do it better.

Are some things better left to the private sector but the parameters defined by government? Sure, they are. Health care is one of them. Government defines the scope of health insurance, mediates disputes and sets the qualifications of health practitioners. The private sector manages the processes necessary to deliver health care as defined by government. The profits taken from properly run private companies are far less than the waste and abuse of pure government run health care.

We can go on and on, but why bother? You are too busy asserting all sorts of pejoratives into this discussion. Everyone who votes for trump MUST be a KKK sympathizer. What else can they be with all that code Trump insinuates into all his rhetoric? Perhaps, we recognize he can't diminish our sovereignty as thoroughly as Hillary? With that greater protection against a loss of sovereignty, we have more at our disposal to curtail or remedy his more corrupt desires.

.....nah, we can't support him for any reasonable reasons. We're all just a basket of deplorables after all.


Lots of things are good ideas. Voting for Trump not because he is a pathetic human being who can do the least damage, but because One is a loyal Republican and "he is my party's nominee" is a noble reason to vote for Trump. There are plenty of others ...

JUST don't show me reasons why I should abandon MY party's candidate because you see her as the epitome of evil. I will say it again, she and Bill have been investigated, committeed, sued, impeached and nothing sticks because 90% is Scorched earth, denying her the ability to lead should she actually win.. I an also on record here as declaring that even now Hillary is my 4th choice for the Democrat nomintion. She should have done the honorable thing and retired gracefully from public life when Obama destroyed her 2008 campaign.

The GOP is so conflicted over the Postal Service because (1) they hate all things union including the USPS. and (2) they can't do anything about it because the Constitution says We MUST haver pa postal service,post roads, and FREE POSTAGE foe all members of congress.

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Re: Duckk said take Mrs Clinton\not in jail here.
Post by WeirdlyWired   » Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:17 am

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PeterZ wrote: We can go on and on, but why bother? You are too busy asserting all sorts of pejoratives into this discussion. Everyone who votes for trump MUST be a KKK sympathizer. What else can they be with all that code Trump insinuates into all his rhetoric? Perhaps, we recognize he can't diminish our sovereignty as thoroughly as Hillary? With that greater protection against a loss of sovereignty, we have more at our disposal to curtail or remedy his more corrupt desires.

.....nah, we can't support him for any reasonable reasons. We're all just a basket of deplorables after all.


This was NOT aimed at you or any other of the 49.5% of people supporting or leaning toward supporting Trump.

It is as blunt a statement about why I do nor CAN NOT support Donald Trump or the Republican Party. You wish to take it personally? I admit, my writing is not as clear as I mostly think it is.
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Re: Duckk said take Mrs Clinton\not in jail here.
Post by Daryl   » Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:08 am

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Lets get this right. My understanding is that a paedophile was being investigated, and among 65,000 emails on his computer there were found to be some that in their forward on history had at some time been linked to Clinton's computer. There is no evidence that Clinton ever directly emailed this man, and no evidence that any of the forwarded emails are illegal. It just so happened that the FBI chief who is a registered Republican authorised the release of this connection within two weeks of the election. Too short a period to address the issue, but in time to skew the result because of perceptions. I thought our politicians were a little unethical at times.
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Re: Duckk said take Mrs Clinton\not in jail here.
Post by PeterZ   » Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:08 am

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Oh, those suits that have been dismissed twice already? Not credible enough to mention. Sort of like what Anita Hill did to Clarence Thomas.

Until those cases are taken seriously by the courts, I shall reserve judgement on this issue. The Dems have trotted out this old nag of electioneering dirty tricks too often not to wait and see.

Btw, since we are free with tossing out unsubstantiated claims. Here's something about your favorite people and pedophiles, Annachie.

http://www.anonews.co/fbi-clinton/

I haven't corroborated this information, but hey its been reported so I'll pass it along Democrat style.


Annachie wrote:Wilful ignorance is so disapounting Peter.

Trump alone is being sued by 2 (correction it's gone to 3 recently) women who claimed Trump raped them when they were tweenagers.

There have been many high GOP elected reps done this year alone.
Stuff that actually made the news.

I recently tried to post the list of GOP pedophiles into a facebook comment.
It was too big.

(I should note, the list of Democrat pedo's is about a fifth the size)


PeterZ wrote:The only pedophilia investigation I am aware of is Huma Abadin's esteanged husband, Anthony Wiener. He is a Dem. Abedin is Hillary's chief aide.

He's not GOP.



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Re: Duckk said take Mrs Clinton\not in jail here.
Post by PeterZ   » Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:19 am

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Believe as you wish. It's is your mind set that forces me to vote Trump rather than someone like Johnson. Gcomeau and I have had a running discussion about voting our conscience. We both would vote for Johnson by preference. I cannot because folks who believe as you do will vote party over everything. I simply cannot vote in such a way to make President Hillary more likely.

There are many voting for Trump who are not Republicans. Some of us, me included, have lost faith with the party leadership. Better to toss out those bozos or join another party. We don't vote for Trump out of party loyalty but to get power away from political elites. That this election has resulted in turmoil for the major parties is a wonderful feature.

Perhaps third parties have a chance now.


WeirdlyWired wrote:
PeterZ wrote: We can go on and on, but why bother? You are too busy asserting all sorts of pejoratives into this discussion. Everyone who votes for trump MUST be a KKK sympathizer. What else can they be with all that code Trump insinuates into all his rhetoric? Perhaps, we recognize he can't diminish our sovereignty as thoroughly as Hillary? With that greater protection against a loss of sovereignty, we have more at our disposal to curtail or remedy his more corrupt desires.

.....nah, we can't support him for any reasonable reasons. We're all just a basket of deplorables after all.


This was NOT aimed at you or any other of the 49.5% of people supporting or leaning toward supporting Trump.

It is as blunt a statement about why I do nor CAN NOT support Donald Trump or the Republican Party. You wish to take it personally? I admit, my writing is not as clear as I mostly think it is.
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Re: Duckk said take Mrs Clinton\not in jail here.
Post by PeterZ   » Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:29 am

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When Comey announced that there was evidence of gross negligence in Clinton's handling of her private email server but no evidence of intent to do anything illegal, all the progressives and liberals thought Comey was a standup guy. Now, when he is following evidence as standup guys do when they are also FBI directors, he is a political hack. Never mind that the laws relating to the handling of secure information make no provision for intent at all. If a bubblehead takes a picture of Sherwood forest to text to his mom, he is as guilty as a spy doing the same thing for a foreign nation.

Even so, Clinton got a pass that was a just application of the law this summer, but now suffers from injustice. She started all this by keeping a private server that does not have the same security as the Fed's system at the Department of State. She sent emails that are likely classified to Huma. Huma viewed those emails on a laptop she shared with someone lacking security clearance, Carolos Danger, aka Anthony Weiner. When asked for all devices with the emails on it, Huma did not give this laptop to the FBI. So, classified information was again treated like so much unimportant spam and requests from FBI investigations are ignored.

That alone warrants an investigation. Don't blame Comey for investigating the gross negligence of the Clinton's staff in handling secure information. If she can't get her closest aides to follow proper procedures in safeguarding national security, how can she be trusted to ensure the entire nation is safeguarded?

So, Daryl, if you are upset that the Boor of New York might win the Presidency, blame Clinton not Comey.

Daryl wrote:Lets get this right. My understanding is that a paedophile was being investigated, and among 65,000 emails on his computer there were found to be some that in their forward on history had at some time been linked to Clinton's computer. There is no evidence that Clinton ever directly emailed this man, and no evidence that any of the forwarded emails are illegal. It just so happened that the FBI chief who is a registered Republican authorised the release of this connection within two weeks of the election. Too short a period to address the issue, but in time to skew the result because of perceptions. I thought our politicians were a little unethical at times.
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Re: Duckk said take Mrs Clinton\not in jail here.
Post by gcomeau   » Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:15 am

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PeterZ wrote:Oh, those suits that have been dismissed twice already? Not credible enough to mention. Sort of like what Anita Hill did to Clarence Thomas.

Until those cases are taken seriously by the courts, I shall reserve judgement on this issue.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... rt-date-f/
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Re: Duckk said take Mrs Clinton\not in jail here.
Post by PeterZ   » Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:43 am

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gcomeau wrote:
PeterZ wrote:Oh, those suits that have been dismissed twice already? Not credible enough to mention. Sort of like what Anita Hill did to Clarence Thomas.

Until those cases are taken seriously by the courts, I shall reserve judgement on this issue.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... rt-date-f/


As I said, I reserve judgement. The case has been dismissed and now reopened. Sort of like Mrs. Clinton's situation. Of course these aren't criminal charges where Mrs. Clinton's are.
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