Archangles Chihiro & Schueler & Seijin Kohdy

My re-reading brought me up to HFQ today and, when I read the information that (page 28) Schyeler and Chihro "departed in victory" and that the servitors who fought for them had withdrawn to the Dawn Star.
I have been unable to find the name of the last ship that was the point of contention before AR was bombed but it began with an H and so the gears of my mind began to wonder what the heck this Dawn Star is.

This seems to be another clue hidden in plain sight and, while it could relate to the room under the temple, I am more inclined to think that is the orbital platform.

I did have a weird thought about what might happen if the "archangels" were in cryo-sleep under the temple and wake up, discover the key is missing so they go up stairs looking for someone who has it...

This would bring them face to face with the Grand Inquisitor who would no doubt have them arrested and put to the Question because obviously they are heretic blasphemers ... hmmmm

C. O. Thompson wrote:My re-reading brought me up to HFQ today and, when I read the information that (page 28) Schyeler and Chihro "departed in victory" and that the servitors who fought for them had withdrawn to the Dawn Star.
I have been unable to find the name of the last ship that was the point of contention before AR was bombed but it began with an H and so the gears of my mind began to wonder what the heck this Dawn Star is.

This seems to be another clue hidden in plain sight and, while it could relate to the room under the temple, I am more inclined to think that is the orbital platform.

I did have a weird thought about what might happen if the "archangels" were in cryo-sleep under the temple and wake up, discover the key is missing so they go up stairs looking for someone who has it...

This would bring them face to face with the Grand Inquisitor who would no doubt have them arrested and put to the Question because obviously they are heretic blasphemers ... hmmmm

The "Dawn Star" appears to be the large spaceship that was still in operation at the end of the war. It might be visible to the ground if it did not have optical camouflage. Alternatively, there is another planet in the solar system, in toward the sun, and we are seeing ancient astronomy which viewed Hesperus and Phosphorous as distinct planets.

Given what we know from textev, cryo sleep is contraindicated.

Don

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Nahrmahn identifies the Dawn Star with the Hamilcar, HFQ P111 Kindle Ed, but doesn't specify why. No doubt, the Dawn Star was, for public consumption, imbued with all sorts of spiritual and mystical significance as a facility provided by God for the angels There is an HMS Dawn Star in the ICN, which takes Sharleyan to Zebediah and Corisande in HFAF, suggesting that the angels' 'Dawn Star' is part of the commonly known history of Safehold.

The thing about all of Khody's journal is that one has to view with a certain degree of suspicion anything the Archangels told the Seijins or the population of Safehold, especially during the War of the Fallen; they were engaged in a war to defend a huge con scheme, after all, and determined to disgrace their opponents.

'Departing in victory' (cf Schueler and Chihiro) sounds to me like the sort of way the command crew would describe the death of an archangel to the masses, rather than suggesting they went into retirement somewhere. 'Withdrawn to the Dawn Star' is also a good line on the reduction in the number of servitors, whatever actually happened to them, as it implies, 'But we can get them back again, right smart, if we need to.'

Randomiser wrote:Nahrmahn identifies the Dawn Star with the Hamilcar, HFQ P111 Kindle Ed, but doesn't specify why. No doubt, the Dawn Star was, for public consumption, imbued with all sorts of spiritual and mystical significance as a facility provided by God for the angels There is an HMS Dawn Star in the ICN, which takes Sharleyan to Zebediah and Corisande in HFAF, suggesting that the angels' 'Dawn Star' is part of the commonly known history of Safehold.

The thing about all of Khody's journal is that one has to view with a certain degree of suspicion anything the Archangels told the Seijins or the population of Safehold, especially during the War of the Fallen; they were engaged in a war to defend a huge con scheme, after all, and determined to disgrace their opponents.

'Departing in victory' (cf Schueler and Chihiro) sounds to me like the sort of way the command crew would describe the death of an archangel to the masses, rather than suggesting they went into retirement somewhere. 'Withdrawn to the Dawn Star' is also a good line on the reduction in the number of servitors, whatever actually happened to them, as it implies, 'But we can get them back again, right smart, if we need to.'

Randomiser... Thanks, I found the textev on page 111 when the inner circle are discussing the journal.

I did not think that the remaining arch-angles had retired in the normal sense of the word and even though Merlin was dubious about success of cryo-sleep for that length of time, there is nothing I can find so far which said that they did not try that. Conversely, they could have downloaded their memories prior, whether they had a PICA or not because they had NEAT's... Anyway, I am just tossing ideas out to see what others think.