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by martin » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:38 am | |
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I know it must be an old question but I've not found it.
How come the Nesbits, Meson agents both, have not been spotted by the Haven tree cats? Especially Tony, since he is right there at the centres of power? Its not said he has a cat of his own but he is there with Theisman, Montrow, Pritchard and others. Any thoughts, experts? martin |
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by zuluwiz » Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:10 am | |
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Obviously the Mad Wizard does not want him to be discovered yet. In time it will come to pass, probably just before the Last Battle.
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by tonyz » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:02 am | |
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Timing factors. I don't think they've had enough in-universe time to get the treecats out to Haven yet, much less start probing mid-level security officers in large numbers. |
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by WLBjork » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:00 am | |
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Well, only the security guy is anything like an agent. So far, it seems he's more of a humint source rather than an active conspiracy member. So it's possible the Treecats may in fact pick nothing useful up. |
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by kzt » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:26 am | |
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He was in the same room as Honor and Nimitz iirc.
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by phillies » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:49 am | |
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He was picked up. See text. However, neither Honor nor Nimitz can pick up human thoughts; they pick up emotional tones. Honor was aware that he had an issue but had no idea what it was. |
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by kzt » Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:16 pm | |
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Along with half the other people in the room. Funny how that works after you kill 20 million people. |
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by cthia » Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:21 pm | |
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Friends of mine in Romania discussed quite some time ago that the MAlign could have long isolated the gene influencing emotion. They could have long since engineered into their spies emotional stealth from the cats sensory. The conversation ranged from sociopathy to schizophrenia. They discussed other emotionless states found in humans as well. The conversation was too deep for my brain. Neurosurgeons and MDs don't exactly speak English even when they speak English. I managed to understand the gist of it. The MAlign can engineer emotionally dead spies.
Though I think if successful, an emotionally dead human should raise quite a treecat brow. A somewhat related article...
Full article found here... https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/th ... ensitivity Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by saber964 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:01 pm | |
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Okay there are two Nesbitts. First is Tony currently SecTrade in Pritchart's cabinet, the second is his cousin Jean-Claude who is a Lieutenant Colonel in security at the Department of State.
The probable reason why Tony has not been picked up is he isn't an Mesan agent but Jean-Claude hasn't been exposed to a Treecat yet. The reason why is he is a mid to upper level security agent at the State Department but was unlikely involved with security at the Plaza Falls Hotel where the negotiations took place. The security for the peace conference was probably handled by Presidential Security. |
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by Louis R » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:23 am | |
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It helps to remember that Tony Nesbitt was also one of Giancola's people [and we know from the Detweilers that Giancola was _not_ theirs] but honest enough to recognise that Giancola was quite capable of cooking the negotiations with Manticore for his own advantage. His emotional states as reported by Nimitz are IMV fully consistent with that.
While it can be argued [and I have] that the Nesbitts must be a Star Line there is actually no direct evidence for it. There is, OTOH, evidence that not all members of the Star Lines are recruited into the onion on any level. So it is entirely possible that even if Jean Claude knows exactly what's going on - and will avoid contact with the 'cats by any means possible - Tony has never had any connection with the Alignment.
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