Duckk said take Mrs Clinton\not in jail here.

WeirdlyWired wrote:

Michael Everett wrote:Hillary Clinton = Sirius Black?

Did I stumble into the crossover forum???

Right Family. My pick would be Andromeda Malfoy nee Black (Draco Malfoy's mother). Others would likely pick her sister Bellatrix LeStrange nee Black. All depends on if one thinks there is any redeeming quality in her (HRC) heart.

No, she's Cruella DeVille. Bellatrix embraces a whimsical malevolence at odds with Clinton's calculated approach.

Clinton drive towards her passion much as Cruella does. Different passions which are subject to different interpretations but they are more similar in temperament.

Think of it as Clinton being neutral-evil to Bellatrix's chaotic-evil.

If we're doing crossovers, let's be thankful it's not Clytahn vs. Cordelia in 2016.

jchilds wrote:If we're doing crossovers, let's be thankful it's not Clytahn vs. Cordelia in 2016.

You win. That was funny!

how about Emma Woodhouse. Just bumbling along sticking her nose ... everywhere. Oops...did I do that?
Nah, probably not.

WeirdlyWired wrote:
Corruption is not on my top 35 most important issues in this or any other election cycle. It does, however, seem to be number 1 on yours. Again a place where reasonable persons can agree to disagree. Don't judge me by your priorities. There is an old saying back home about tossing away the baby and keeping the after-birth.

I don't judge you using my priorities. I will argue that corruption should be a top priority on most people's lists.

Corruption is a tool whereby the economic and power elites control the system. The leaked emails showing how DNC consultants hired out thugs to cause violence at Trump rallies. Hillary accepting bribes via her Foundation from foreign entities prior to decisions on uranium mining. Leaked emails showing that Hillary's campaign knew her use of a private serer was wrong and conversation between her staff acknowledging trying to avoid discovery. (The Intent Comey couldn't find).

All this shows she has her machine finely tuned to ignore the law. Using money and influence to do anything she wants and then hide any evidence implicating her in wrong doing. Will all this evidence be used by any investigation? Likely not if she wins.

So, the integrity of our system is at stake. Trump is not capable of destroying the system, only the Republican party. Hillary can destroy the system as she facilitates her use of influence to bypass any and all limitations on how she may behave as President.

If you believe she is corrupt, then she threatens that system. If you accept the bribe she offers you (progressive policies)to allow her that corruption, you forsake any checks and balance against her reneging her promise when a Brazilian or some other Bank pays her enough money to toss your preferred policies under the bus. You will have allowed her the mechanism to facilitate that transaction.

For those that don't believe she is corrupt, well to each his own delusions.

From afar it seems strange that people are continually accusing Clinton of corruption and law breaking, but no prosecutions are pending.
I just can't accept that she and her cadre have such control over the judicial process that they are above the law.
Those mainly accusing her are senior Republicans as in the heavy weight elites or PTB (powers that be). If the US system is already so twisted that they can't make anything stick, we are all doomed.
More likely she is a career politician who has as many ethics as those generally don't, but is smart enough not to put a toe over the line. Being a grasping and not nice person is not a crime in its self.

Daryl, you haven't been paying attention to the wiki leaks then. They contradict her testimony that she had no knowledge that what she did was wrong. Emails from her Chief of Staff indicate that they did know using the private sever was wrong. Knew it was wrong and they wanted to get away with it. Emails that showed a remarkable degree of commingling of personnel and resources between the Foundation and her SecState staffs.

Whether the FBI had this information or not is a good question. A better one is what they do now that the information is made public. Reopen the investigation or white wash it. I suspect they wait until after the election. If she wins, she will slide to a large degree. If she loses, the investigations reopen. Acting before the election will preempt the people deciding how power will be transferred. She could always be impeached and the Presidency will pass to duly elected officials. I doubt she is impeached if she wins though.

I think you missed the oknt Peter.

It's not that he'd try and pull it off, he appears to not understand what it is and why it's required.

PeterZ wrote:If he tries, there more than enough folks to raise Caine to stop him. Where are such voices to the Clinton Foundation when she was SecState?

Intentions are moot if he doesn't have the influence to pull it off.

Annachie wrote:People do realize don't they that Trumps idea of placing his business in a blind trust is to let his kids run it, ie: the exact opposite of a blind trust.
That he intends to co mingle the presidency and his bussiness interests?

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Personally I'm hanging out for Clinton v Trump 2020, parents stay home.

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WeirdlyWired wrote:
Corruption is not on my top 35 most important issues in this or any other election cycle. It does, however, seem to be number 1 on yours. Again a place where reasonable persons can agree to disagree. Don't judge me by your priorities. There is an old saying back home about tossing away the baby and keeping the after-birth.

I don't judge you using my priorities. I will argue that corruption should be a top priority on most people's lists.

Corruption is a tool whereby the economic and power elites control the system. The leaked emails showing how DNC consultants hired out thugs to cause violence at Trump rallies. Hillary accepting bribes via her Foundation from foreign entities prior to decisions on uranium mining. Leaked emails showing that Hillary's campaign knew her use of a private serer was wrong and conversation between her staff acknowledging trying to avoid discovery. (The Intent Comey couldn't find).

All this shows she has her machine finely tuned to ignore the law. Using money and influence to do anything she wants and then hide any evidence implicating her in wrong doing. Will all this evidence be used by any investigation? Likely not if she wins.

So, the integrity of our system is at stake. Trump is not capable of destroying the system, only the Republican party. Hillary can destroy the system as she facilitates her use of influence to bypass any and all limitations on how she may behave as President.

If you believe she is corrupt, then she threatens that system. If you accept the bribe she offers you (progressive policies)to allow her that corruption, you forsake any checks and balance against her reneging her promise when a Brazilian or some other Bank pays her enough money to toss your preferred policies under the bus. You will have allowed her the mechanism to facilitate that transaction.

For those that don't believe she is corrupt, well to each his own delusions.

All petty Bull****! All farce precipitated by the GOP PTB to distract from the real election misconduct which happened in 2000. The State GOPs redistricted the state legislatures. Then in 2010 they redistrictes the congressional House districts to secure the House of representatives until posr 2020, the next census and mandatory re-apportionment of districts.

The real vote fraud in THIS election is Wisconsin NC, etc county voting officials NOT opening early voting locations at universities and other heavy Democrat locations to make it harder (the legal term is voter turnout suppression) for democrats to vote early.

Also Indiana shutting down the equivalent of ACORN and seizing 45,000 black voter registration applications by state police. State police are not legally authorized to shut down voter registration operations.

Not saying Democrats do not, have not cheated. But the massive scale, and use of voter ID requirements, is unprecedented.

Pull, the beam out of your eye ..