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Re: Question about Dempsey's
Post by saber964   » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:11 pm

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Theemile wrote:
Fox2!" [quote="Theemile wrote:
Which brings another question. Do you really see Grayson's main shipyard and Fleetbase having an establishment like Birdies? Anyplace else, sure... but Grayson?


Someplace in Obligated Service, or the other story with the same characters, there is a more acceptable "name" for the establishment, and only those "in the know" refer to it as Birdies'. It may be one of those places with "respectable" dining in the front, beer, poker and strippers in the back.

From Obligated Service:

“Nonsense.” The dowager lady steadholder held up a hand. “Those two young women have passed on. It isn't right to sully the names of the dead.” She pinched her lips and gave lie to the fine words. “Any way, the last formal documents we have in their names call them artisans. It would be near impossible now to find evidence that they did or did not engage in the work willingly or of their own accord without their head-of-household's approval. The authorization to work outside the home, which I had checked, quite clearly states that they have positions as wait staff at an entirely different venue, The Gym, I believe.”
The second wife's crimson blush revealed that she somehow knew different. Claire wondered who had told her.
Claire shook her head, “It's the same venue, Madam Steadholder. It's much like bars called The Library situated outside colleges. The Blackbird Gymnasium. The customers call it Birdies among themselves and ‘The Gym' to their wives, I understand.


Yeah, I get it, but we're talking about Grayson, a planet with a navy who has chaplains as part of the command structure, and an "ingrained" sense of propriety towards women. It's existence at Grayson's primary shipyard just seems incongruous and implausible, irrespective of the subterfuge concealing it's existence.[/quote]
IIRC one of the biggest strip clubs in the state of Virginia was about half a mile from Liberty University. It's the same for the University of Tulsa and Oral Roberts University. Also how many televangelists got caught between the sheets with someone other than the wife over the years.
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Re: Question about Dempsey's
Post by cthia   » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:04 pm

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Weird Harold wrote:
RedBaron wrote:Another thing I was just reminded of while rereading.
The Dempsey's on the space station had scenes from other Dempsey's locations beamed to their location - Specifically mentioned was Yawata Crossing. :o

Do any of the planetside locations do the same thing with video feeds as the location that was on the station?


Unknown. I don't think we've seen any other Dempsey's franchise. I would think not -- at least not on every "window" -- because there's no need to simulate a view.

There might be one or more windows showing other locations in planet-side locations as a "gimmick" or trademark of Dempsey's but there just isn't any textev.

Yes, but the imagery it evokes at the possibility that it could have happened that way at at least one specific "live only at participating location" is mind boggling.

:o :o :o goes the clientele.

And everyone suddenly loses their appetite after being served 5000 credit entrées. I guess they have to eat the loss instead.

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Re: Question about Dempsey's
Post by RedBaron   » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:13 pm

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cthia wrote:Yes, but the imagery it evokes at the possibility that it could have happened that way at at least one specific "live only at participating location" is mind boggling.

:o :o :o goes the clientele.

And everyone suddenly loses their appetite after being served 5000 credit entrées. I guess they have to eat the loss instead.


Yes Cthia, that was my thought as well: People hanging out at some other Dempsey's, having a good time, when all of a sudden a customer points to a window screen that HAD been showing Yawata and yells out something like

HOLY S***!

It would be like watching the towers on live tv on 9/11...
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Re: Question about Dempsey's
Post by Weird Harold   » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:05 pm

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RedBaron wrote:It would be like watching the towers on live tv on 9/11...


Considering the only Dempsey's we know for sure have live feeds are in space stations, it would be more like watching the North Tower destruction from the South Tower.

(only the station orbiting Sphinx would actually be "live" at Yawata Crossing. The other stations would be on tape delay at best, and more probably a recording of happier times.)
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Re: Question about Dempsey's
Post by Fox2!   » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:51 pm

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Theemile wrote:

Yeah, I get it, but we're talking about Grayson, a planet with a navy who has chaplains as part of the command structure, and an "ingrained" sense of propriety towards women. It's existence at Grayson's primary shipyard just seems incongruous and implausible, irrespective of the subterfuge concealing it's existence.


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Re: Question about Dempsey's
Post by Jonathan_S   » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:57 am

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Weird Harold wrote:
RedBaron wrote:It would be like watching the towers on live tv on 9/11...


Considering the only Dempsey's we know for sure have live feeds are in space stations, it would be more like watching the North Tower destruction from the South Tower.

(only the station orbiting Sphinx would actually be "live" at Yawata Crossing. The other stations would be on tape delay at best, and more probably a recording of happier times.)

Yes, you can't watch the later destruction from inside the site of earlier destruction. Just like the South Tower fell about 30 minute before the North Tower the stations were all destroyed probably at least 5 - 10 minutes before the debris of HMSS Vulcan pulverized Yawata Crossing.

Though I guess there might be a Dempsey's location or two out at the Junction stations - but even if those also got light speed broadcasts of ground locations the 7 hour transmission lag seems more than enough time for someone who got the word through Hernes to change the settings (or turn the viewers off) to avoid the chance of broadcasting the destruction in the restaurant "windows". And Igiven how the "windows" are described I doubt the planet side locations broadcast each other's street views. So I find it unlikely that anybody was surprised over lunch with views out their Dempsey"s "windows" of debris raining down and smashing Yawata Crossing.
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Re: Question about Dempsey's
Post by Michael McConahie   » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:29 am

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Fox2! wrote:
Theemile wrote:

Yeah, I get it, but we're talking about Grayson, a planet with a navy who has chaplains as part of the command structure, and an "ingrained" sense of propriety towards women. It's existence at Grayson's primary shipyard just seems incongruous and implausible, irrespective of the subterfuge concealing it's existence.


My response (from reputation only): Po City.

When Punatubo (sp?) blew?
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Re: Question about Dempsey's
Post by Fox2!   » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:39 pm

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Michael McConahie wrote:
Fox2! wrote:
My response (from reputation only): Po City.

When Punatubo (sp?) blew?


No, as the most "wretched hive of scum and villainy" this side of Mos Eisley.
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Re: Question about Dempsey's
Post by KNick   » Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:05 pm

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Any place where women are treated as second class (or third or fourth behind the predominant livestock), women will be trafficked for sex. Whether it takes the form of "exotic dancers" or outright prostitutes depends on the societal acceptance of form. This is especially true where there are lots of "unattached" men with cash to spend, such as at a fleet base or high use port.
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Re: Question about Dempsey's
Post by WeirdlyWired   » Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:00 am

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KNick wrote:Any place where women are treated as second class (or third or fourth behind the predominant livestock), women will be trafficked for sex. Whether it takes the form of "exotic dancers" or outright prostitutes depends on the societal acceptance of form. This is especially true where there are lots of "unattached" men with cash to spend, such as at a fleet base or high use port.


I give you the middle east inventors of Islam, stoning adulterers, belly dancing and the 3 hour marriage performed by the cat house Imam. remember, there are lots of "loaners" to the GSN. Probably several hundred tech advisors in the shipyards themselves for support. All it would take is one MCPO 3 parts Sir Horace Harkness, one part Randy Steilman to get the ball rolling.
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