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Re: Duckk said take Mrs Clinton\not in jail here. | |
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by Daryl » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:10 pm | |
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Obviously I agree that it is your country, and your voter's decision. We do have a stake in it as well, in that the US does a great many things that impact on the rest of us. A short tempered man who appears to be a bully used to getting his own way is not an ideal person to have in charge of a nuclear arsenal. Clinton is no prize but is less likely to have an impact on the rest of the world.
As to the personality bit I did say I was prejudiced. Plus I agree that some Aussies are a disgrace being drunken louts (our term is Bogans) Not all, as not all US citizens are. Exactly a year ago I was on a excursion boat in Amsterdam listening to a US woman shouting that she was a Marine Colonel who knew things, as in the European capitals were frauds as the cobble stoned streets had obviously been put there for tourists, as you couldn't have used horses on them in by gone days. |
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by PeterZ » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:03 pm | |
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Of course our President will impact you. You would prefer for us to elect someone to your preference. Completely understandable. Unfortunately, your preference is quite low on most of our priority lists. You'll just have to suffer with the rest of us should Trump win. If he does win, I am glad I will suffer less than under the alternative.
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by Annachie » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:50 am | |
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Peter, Trump isn't being tried. He bribed his way out of any possible charges.
He is being sued however, and given how many various wrong doings he is being sued over, it amazes me how he can possibly be considered the more moral, less corrupt one. Different kettle of fish. Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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by PeterZ » Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:14 am | |
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But it doesn't amaze you that Clinton establishes foreign and domestic economy branches of a "foundation" to collect contributions for granting access to her as Sec State? That is public corruption on the highest order. It is illegal as she collects contributions from foreign sources.
Your arguments smack of selective outrage and is the very sort of response that suggests my opinion of Clinton is being confirmed accurate by foreigners.
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by RedBaron » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:28 pm | |
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http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-e ... 6/1.742951
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/C ... -0001.html
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by WeirdlyWired » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:49 pm | |
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The lawyers in my family (2 Harvard law School) keep saying the law is black, gray and white. bad lawyers understand the whitepart of THE LAW. Good lawyers understand the gray part where "reasonable persons can reasonably disagree." Very good lawyers understand the black ie where THE law is not. Hillary Clint5on is purported to be a very good lawyer. One would assume that she hired other very good lawyers as consultants.
There is also the matter of ex post facto. When were the contents of emails determined to be classified? If they were not "classified when sent or received, but later (say upon FOI request) later deemed to be classified by some external agency (say CIA or NSA) Where is criminal intent? Also why no outrage over Nixon's 59 (or whatever) minute gap in his tape recordings? Where is the outrage over Colin Powell and Condi Rice using personal servers and deleting thousands of emails? Do we even understand the LEGAL difference between Should (ought to) and Shall (must)? If I do not, but should there is no violation, however upsetting it is to your personal religious beliefs. If I Shall and don't I am legally culpable. Hewing to Bork's commonly understood interpretation, should is not criminal. Trump has not (so) far been accused of anything criminal. Merely civil rights violations. AGAIN not something one goes to jail for. Helas,chou, Je m'en fache.
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by Annachie » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:40 am | |
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Actually, Trump has been accused of criminal acts, acts that have an expired statute of limitations.
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by gcomeau » Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:07 pm | |
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Ummm, thousands? http://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/ ... use-emails "In 2007, when Congress asked the Bush administration for emails surrounding the firing of eights U.S. attorneys, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales revealed that many of the emails requested could not be produced because they were sent on a non-government email server. The officials had used the private domain gwb43.com, a server run by the Republican National Committee. Two years later, it was revealed that potentially 22 million emails were deleted, which was considered by some to be a violation of the Presidential Records Act." (Also, I'm pretty sure rape is a criminal act, and Trump's been accused of rape or attempted rape on at least 3 separate occasions I am aware of. And yet... GOP nominee for President ladies and gentlemen...) |
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by WeirdlyWired » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:30 pm | |
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Ok, I surender. You make my point better than I did. Outrage over Clinton's few actions over 20+ years with absolutely no equivalent rage over actions by members of the republican Party is hypocritical at best. Mysogynist at worst. Just another fine exampkle of the "Scorched Earth" policy of the republican Party. The Birther Movement, especially when not applied to the Republican Candidate born in Canada. Helas,chou, Je m'en fache.
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by Annachie » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:56 pm | |
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The email problem goes way back, and should have been fixed in GWB's era.
It became accepted practice because the government servers were so bad, or so the story goes. Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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