SPOILERS ... Speculation from the Maps and Snippet

tootall wrote:2 cents:

James Longstreet was a huge proponent of taking the offensive whenever possible. To him that meant moving his troops into a position where Union commanders had to ATTACK THEM on ground of his choosing. Seems as if a serious move on Dohlar might compel our friend the Grand Inquisitor to insist that the Host attack Eastshare, on ground of Eastshare's choosing.

Nice to see another Longstreet fan. I've never thought he got the recognition he deserved. Anyway... There appears to be an attack up through the Recklair gap on the right flank of MH Group South. Eastshare might have help from his seijin buddy in picking out a place where MH would have to attack him after he's driven through the Recklair Gap.

Duckk,
Is this thread real spoiler stuff?

EdThomas wrote:Nice to know folks are looking at the maps. I have one problem with your guesstimate. You're projecting Hanth pull a "Hey, diddle, diddle, right up the middle" into and through Rychter's stacked defensive positions on the Canal even though we know Rychter's getting better artillery and has way too many of the rapid-firing St Khylman's. IMHO that dotted lines may represent the extent of Rychter's defensive envelope. Any pro's out there with opinions pn what that type of dotted line represents?

OTOH It's hard to see why the rear of Rychter's 'defensive envelope' would be marked but not the front. And if that's his front he has big problems. The Dohlaran border runs east of Bryxtyn and Waymeet; Waymeet which he has lost is a strategic road and canal nexus; Hanth has a huge salient into Rychter's lines, which is way too big to defend with the numbers he has.

NTM all the detail of these farms etc well West of that line on the map!

Randomiser wrote:

EdThomas wrote:Nice to know folks are looking at the maps. I have one problem with your guesstimate. You're projecting Hanth pull a "Hey, diddle, diddle, right up the middle" into and through Rychter's stacked defensive positions on the Canal even though we know Rychter's getting better artillery and has way too many of the rapid-firing St Khylman's. IMHO that dotted lines may represent the extent of Rychter's defensive envelope. Any pro's out there with opinions pn what that type of dotted line represents?

OTOH It's hard to see why the rear of Rychter's 'defensive envelope' would be marked but not the front. And if that's his front he has big problems. The Dohlaran border runs east of Bryxtyn and Waymeet; Waymeet which he has lost is a strategic road and canal nexus; Hanth has a huge salient into Rychter's lines, which is way too big to defend with the numbers he has.

NTM all the detail of these farms etc well West of that line on the map!

It's hard to tell what the maps are showing. The North and temple lands maps show a series of vertical dashes across the Saeridahn canal and the adjacent road that I'm taking a a series of defensive positions Rychter is using or has used. THe Dohlar map has nothing like them and actually shows nothing in the area the lines are on the other two. Who knows.
We know Hanth's still east of Dohlar and not moving very fast. We know Rychter's getting stronger and is becoming progressively more aggressive in his defense. The Temple lands map shows the border running through Braxtyn and Waymeet which unfortunately is of little value because we have only a very general idea of where the forces are.
WE don't know if the dotted line marking the of bulge sw of Braytyn/Waymeet indicates any sort of specific boundary. It may ( ) indicate someone's area of operations. I'd appreciate anyone familiar with military mappping shedding some light on what the dots actually mean.
If something happens back near Gorath or on the canals leading up to Rychter that cut off his supplies Hanth might be able to push him back and the dotted line may indeed be his advance but Hanth ain't gonna do it by himself.

The amount of detail is tantalizing, especially when you look at the lack of detail in Silkiah or other areas.
Only the Celeryeater knows!!

tootall wrote:2 cents:

James Longstreet was a huge proponent of taking the offensive whenever possible. To him that meant moving his troops into a position where Union commanders had to ATTACK THEM on ground of his choosing. Seems as if a serious move on Dohlar might compel our friend the Grand Inquisitor to insist that the Host attack Eastshare, on ground of Eastshare's choosing.

The defender has an advantage, so a lot of strategy comes down to "Get there first, dig in, and force the other guy to attack you." The trick is that "there" must be a place the other guy simply has to have, and he has no choice but attack.

That was essentially what Eastshare did to the Army of Justice - dig in and block the Kiplinger High Road, and give Duke Harless the choice of attack and try to clear it, surrender, or starve. Ahlvarez was smart enough to realize right way he had no choice about attacking and did his best, but was ultimately unsuccessful. Harless never did get a clue.

What Rainbow Waters might do if Clyntahn makes such demands will be fun to see.
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Dennis

Duhhh. Might that Green dash-dot line indicate where Clyntahn wants the second wave of MH to be placed?

The designation of the three Mighty Host Armies as Mighty Host North (Army Group North), Mighty Host Center (Army Group Center) and Mighty Host South (Army Group South) as used by the Germans in Russia does not give a hint that the author may plan the destruction of Army Center following the example of Operation Bagration?

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bagration