Logistics and the Coming Year

Keith_w wrote:

DMcCunney wrote:Germany had a fair number of Marxists, but Mark thought a developed nation like Germany was where Communism would develop. The notion is might take root in still agrarian and feudal societies like Russia was not one that occurred to most Marxists.

The Marxists were hardly the only ones the existing ruling classes worried about. Socialists were seen as a greater threat, as were major industries not under the control of the existing nobility, with industrialists amassing fortunes that exceeded the nobles, and a middle class that increasingly expected a voice in how things were run. Religion was also in that mix, with Catholic versus Protestant one of the major cleavages.

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Although I cannot tell you where I read it, I recall reading that Marx was terrified at the thought of marxism being implemented in agrarian societies such as Russia's.

As for fear of Marxists and Socialists, let us not forget Anarchists as well. I was just reading up on Anarchism and see that Marxism was originally included in that political spectrum although true Anarchists believed that Marxism would simply replace one set of rulers with another and it looks as though they were correct.

Captain Igloo wrote:

DMcCunney wrote:SNIPP

Machine guns were major causes of the horrendous casualties in WWI, as "over the top" attacks were made on fortified positions. That sort of nonsense is the last sort of thing Charis wants to do, and it the Mighty Host is foolish enough to try that sort of mass attack, well, that's what angle guns, mortars, and Katyushas are for, not to mention Shan Wei's Footstools and the like.. Troops with magazine fed Mahndrayns using aimed fire can do for MHoG troops that survive the artillery and mines.

So no, I don't expect to see machine guns.

The main cause of death/ injury was down to Artillery fire. 58% of deaths/injuries on the battlefield were caused by Artillery fire as opposed to 32% caused by bullets (Rifle or Machine Gun).

DMcCunney wrote:

lyonheart wrote:Hi Dennis,

Quite right.

We don't know where the southern MH is [not on map], and we have no textev orders that it move towards Dohlar.

Clyntahn is still focused on preserving his gains in northern Siddarmark and protecting his concentration camps. We're seeing how well that's working out. (And Earl Rainbow Waters is quietly grateful as camps farther out are liberated, reducing the demands that he Do Something to protect them.)

This another plea for more and better detailed maps, if anyone can do anything about that at this late date.

Hmmm. I wonder if Openstreetmaps can be adapted...

If the MH's second wave [~5-600K] is sent south from their training camps in the spring, we may see the ICN gunboats etc go up the Sabana to cut their supplies off, and possibly force the CoGA to destroy the south end of the Holy Langhorne Canal locks, which would force RW to retreat unless they can be repaired quickly.

Given Clyntahn's preoccupations, I think that's unlikely. He wants to finish crushing Siddarmark. Dohlar is a side-show for the EoC, and it's likely a sideshow for him as well. I don't think a threat to Dohlar would make him divert resources. His thinking is likely to be "I've got the Mighty Host of God, and I don't really need Dohlar." He'll want Dohlar to keep fighting to tie down some of the EoC's strength, but I don't think he'll divert the Might Host's second wave to help.

Much as I'd like to see the ICA reinforcements land in Temple Bay this summer, I don't think its going to happen, though having Duchairn or Magwair or both challenge Clyntahn to show them how to trust God and lead his local inquisitors [all that's left]in battle against the heretics, which could be fun to watch them all get slaughtered.

Duchairn and Magwair might well try to take out Clyntahn if they had the ability. But Inquisitors loyal to Clyntahn are firmly in control in Zion and the Temple, and Magwair doesn't have forces he can be confident will back him near enough to do anything.

(I do suspect Clyntanh might get an unpleasant surprise from the Temple Guard still in Zion at some point. Hauwerd Wylsynn had been their commander at one point, and Clyntahn's purge of Hauwerd as well as his brother Samuel along with the other members of the Circle won't sit well with them. They might just decide they've had quite enough of the Inquisition, and Clyntahn might discover his Inquisitors in Zion have suffered unfortunate mishaps... )

Will there be ICA machine guns by then?

At a con back in April, I asked David whether we'd see Gatling guns appearing in the ICA, since they are well within the capabilities of Charis to build. David said we wouldn't, because they'd serve no real need.

Machine guns were major causes of the horrendous casualties in WWI, as "over the top" attacks were made on fortified positions. That sort of nonsense is the last sort of thing Charis wants to do, and it the Mighty Host is foolish enough to try that sort of mass attack, well, that's what angle guns, mortars, and Katyushas are for, not to mention Shan Wei's Footstools and the like.. Troops with magazine fed Mahndrayns using aimed fire can do for MHoG troops that survive the artillery and mines.

So no, I don't expect to see machine guns.
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Dennis

lyonheart wrote:Hi Dennis,

I've argued for years that thanks to the ICA's 3" mortars and Mahndrayn rifles, they don't need machine guns, but RFC is so flexible he might change his mind.

Addendum to below; I'd still like a better map to see where the Black Wyvern Hills are, since that's where the southern MH is.

DMcCunney wrote:I've argued for years that thanks to the ICA's 3" mortars and Mahndrayn rifles, they don't need machine guns, but RFC is so flexible he might change his mind.