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by Imaginos1892 » Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:24 pm | |
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You forget the idiots that would vote for a toad if it was a Democrat.
There are also those that would vote for a crow if it was a Republican. |
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by PeterZ » Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:20 am | |
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Or those that would vote for either instead of Hillary Clinton. |
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by Annachie » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:59 am | |
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Well yes that is modern politics. Around 80% of the electorate will vote their party no matter what.
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by dscott8 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:42 am | |
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That traditional bit of wisdom is getting a bit thin in this election. Look at the number of Republicans bailing out on Trump, or the Bernie-Or-Bust crowd. Also, fewer people are bothering to register a party affiliation -- many see no real difference between the parties. They both campaign on emotional issues to get the voters fired up, but no matter who wins, they all cut backroom deals together in favor of those who have enough money to hedge their bets by donating to both parties. |
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by Annachie » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:15 am | |
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True ds, this US election looks to be an exception for President.
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by DDHv » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:59 am | |
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Don't ever forget the effects of media bias. From: http://constitution.com/trump-leading-6 ... 00-voters/
Among other things described, a group of graduate students did their own poll: 1,000 people from each state, evenly divided between R, D, & I, and got much different results than the media polls. Ouch. Unfortunately, "May you live in interesting times." seems to be happening, and is likely to be lethal for at least some of us Douglas Hvistendahl
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by The E » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:43 am | |
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And the fact that that sort of selection of candidates makes the poll invalid didn't register with you? (Also, why do you not link to that poll?) Let me explain: Going by your description, if they chose 1000 people from each state with a selection filter making sure that there's an even split between people who identify with Rs, Ds and Independents, you're not going to get representative results. Why? Because the US population isn't neatly divided into 33% Rs, 33%Ds, and 33% others. By applying the selection, they have changed the question they're asking: It's no longer "what does a representative sample of the US population think", it's "what do people who identify as X think". Then we get to methodological questions, as pointed out in this essay:
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by dscott8 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:26 pm | |
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Media bias? That link leads to constitution.com, whose content is emphatically anti-Clinton and pro-Trump. They're even giving away a customized "Trump Truck". One thing that irritates me about Trump is the way he turns everything into a conspiracy against himself. He calls the press biased when they report the exact words that come out of his mouth. He claims that dozens of polls conducted by reputable independent pollsters are faked. He's already whining that if he doesn't win, it's because the elections will be "rigged". He sounds like a teenager trying desperately to convince his parents that it wasn't his fault that he rolled the family car. |
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by Annachie » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:19 pm | |
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As always when talking about governments, "Yes Minister/Yes Prime Minister"
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by Tenshinai » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:57 pm | |
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Hah! I already linked that one pages ago! (somewhere) But it IS very fitting indeed, well deserved to be brought up more than once. |
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