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Internal chronology SoV
Post by Joat42   » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:13 pm

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Since the first snippet takes place on February 1921 P.D., the internal chronology of SoV seem to overlap the following books:
  • The Shadow of Saganami (June 1920 P.D. => June 1921 P.D.)
  • At All Costs (July 1920 P.D. => August 1921 P.D.)
  • Storm from the Shadows (March 1921 P.D. => December 1921 P.D.)
  • Torch of Freedom (November 1919 P.D. => April 1922 P.D.)
  • Mission of Honor (December 1921 P.D. => May 1922 P.D.)
  • A Rising Thunder (March 1922 P.D. => August 1922 P.D.)
  • Shadow of Freedom (February 1922 P.D. => August 1922 P.D.)
  • Cauldron of Ghosts (May 1922 P.D. => October 1922 P.D.)
So the question is, how much of the book will be filling in blanks here and there?

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Re: Internal chronology SoV
Post by Weird Harold   » Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:06 pm

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Joat42 wrote:So the question is, how much of the book will be filling in blanks here and there?


To borrow a stock answer from the late Robert Jordan: RAFO

RAFO=Read And Find Out
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Re: Internal chronology SoV
Post by JohnRoth   » Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:00 pm

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Joat42 wrote:Since the first snippet takes place on February 1921 P.D., the internal chronology of SoV seem to overlap the following books:
  • The Shadow of Saganami (June 1920 P.D. => June 1921 P.D.)
  • At All Costs (July 1920 P.D. => August 1921 P.D.)
  • Storm from the Shadows (March 1921 P.D. => December 1921 P.D.)
  • Torch of Freedom (November 1919 P.D. => April 1922 P.D.)
  • Mission of Honor (December 1921 P.D. => May 1922 P.D.)
  • A Rising Thunder (March 1922 P.D. => August 1922 P.D.)
  • Shadow of Freedom (February 1922 P.D. => August 1922 P.D.)
  • Cauldron of Ghosts (May 1922 P.D. => October 1922 P.D.)
So the question is, how much of the book will be filling in blanks here and there?


Honorverse books usually spend the first third or so recaping events that have happened in other books. I imagine we're going to see bits and pieces of things hsppening in the Talbot Sector and ? (Meyers) sector and on Mesa, including the follow-on to Cauldron of Ghosts. The first section will probably move fairly fast, since it's essentially back-story for one of the central characters of the book - or so RFC has said.
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Re: Internal chronology SoV
Post by Henry Brown   » Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:17 pm

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Joat42 wrote:So the question is, how much of the book will be filling in blanks here and there?


My understanding is that RFC is trying to wrap the series up in another book or 2. If that is the plan, this book has to move things along. So there can't be TOO much filling in blanks from events of the previous year.
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Re: Internal chronology SoV
Post by Star Knight   » Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:11 am

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Henry Brown wrote:
Joat42 wrote:So the question is, how much of the book will be filling in blanks here and there?


My understanding is that RFC is trying to wrap the series up in another book or 2. If that is the plan, this book has to move things along. So there can't be TOO much filling in blanks from events of the previous year.


SoV needs to cover the aftermath of 10th Fleet arriving at Mesa, uncovering Houdini and whatever happens at Beowulf.

The last book will wrap up the MA threat by conquering Darius and neutralizing the Detweilers.
And the League will fracture over whatever happens at Beowulf. Very doable.

Humanity will be at war with itself for the next millennium, but Manticore will be ok for the immediate future. Until the foreshadowed conflict with the Andermani gets hot of course.

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Re: Internal chronology SoV
Post by JohnRoth   » Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:43 am

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Joat42 wrote:So the question is, how much of the book will be filling in blanks here and there?


Henry Brown wrote:My understanding is that RFC is trying to wrap the series up in another book or 2. If that is the plan, this book has to move things along. So there can't be TOO much filling in blanks from events of the previous year.


Star Knight wrote:SoV needs to cover the aftermath of 10th Fleet arriving at Mesa, uncovering Houdini and whatever happens at Beowulf.

The last book will wrap up the MA threat by conquering Darius and neutralizing the Detweilers.
And the League will fracture over whatever happens at Beowulf. Very doable.

Humanity will be at war with itself for the next millennium, but Manticore will be ok for the immediate future. Until the foreshadowed conflict with the Andermani gets hot of course.

There is nothing new under the sun.


Yeah, I'd say that's a fair summary of what ought to happen. With RFC, what ought to happen might not.
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Re: Internal chronology SoV
Post by George J. Smith   » Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:58 am

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I don't think Darius will be wrapped up so quickly, don't forget that rfc originally planned for Honors children to take the war to the MA. I think he may just continue that line with the finding of some proof of the MAs existence on Mesa but not where the MA went to from Mesa.

It may take the years for Honors children to grow up and graduate from whichever institution they attend, for the links to Darius to be found.
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Re: Internal chronology SoV
Post by Star Knight   » Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:42 am

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RFC said somewhere he plans to end the series in two books (SoV included).
Obviously he can stretch it out if he wants (...to make money :)), but as shown, its possible to wrap it up fairly soon.
His orignial plans with Honors children have been scrapped so long ago, its not a relevant factor anymore IMO.
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Re: Internal chronology SoV
Post by NervousEnergy   » Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:11 am

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George J. Smith wrote:I don't think Darius will be wrapped up so quickly, don't forget that rfc originally planned for Honors children to take the war to the MA. I think he may just continue that line with the finding of some proof of the MAs existence on Mesa but not where the MA went to from Mesa.

It may take the years for Honors children to grow up and graduate from whichever institution they attend, for the links to Darius to be found.

That would be one way to keep the series somewhat opened ended for either Himself or other authors to keep the stories coming in the Honorverse, but I have one major issue with it:

The 'Link' to Darius is a wormhole in a major allied system. It's already been 'found', and all it takes is one MA agent capture/leak to confirm it.

I can see some of the stealth fleet escaping with some key MA personnel to maintain the potential threat for many books to come, but it's hard to imaging the series ending with Darius intact. That's not a resolution at all.
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Re: Internal chronology SoV
Post by kzt   » Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:05 pm

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NervousEnergy wrote:I can see some of the stealth fleet escaping with some key MA personnel to maintain the potential threat for many books to come, but it's hard to imaging the series ending with Darius intact. That's not a resolution at all.

Did you ever read Stirlings "Stone Dogs"? :twisted:
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