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Re: The mandarins
Post by kzt   » Sun Aug 07, 2016 4:03 am

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David is kind of fudging on that. He wanted a major setback, but what he produced would have been the collapse of the economy and at least 10 years of time lost. (When your average design engineer and most senior tech has exactly as much experience in manufacturing as the guy you hired yesterday to sweep the floor it's likely that your first products will have 'issues', and so will the second and third) When nobody is building anything, all the people mining materials have no customers.

And the RMN would have actually taken significant steps to ensure that it remained combat capable as long as possible, as without any spare parts things that wear out or break will be down until some vague date in the future. So readiness will inevitably drop over time, and it will drop faster when you inflict more wear on the ships by doing stuff. Notice that nobody has any worries about where their spare recon drones will come from, or particular focus on recovering them.

I suspect that if he finally talks about the impact in a later book he will have backed off from the comments he made here. But we will see.
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Re: The mandarins
Post by Rincewind   » Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:17 pm

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kzt wrote:
JohnRoth wrote:I seem to remember that Beowulf already had the plans, which would have included the plans for the fabricators needed. They hadn't put them into production because they didn't want the SL to get wind of that.

No, they were generally aware of RMN tech, but they didn't have any of this. Hell, the Andies, with whom the SEM was formally allied and fighting a war alongside, didn't have plans for RMN missiles until after the SEMs missile plants all blew up. Grayson was provide a full set of tools to build the missiles, but the tools were built in Manticore.


That's not quite true. The Andermani's did develop the new Inertial Compensators & their own dual drive missiles independently but offhand I seem to remember a passage in At All Costs where they were discussing how long it would take to bring the Andermani Wallers up to full Manticoran specs with Manticoran assistance before Operation Houdini: (Their tech base is still inferior though as referenced in the conference immediately after the Yawata Strike in Mission of Honor).
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