Shame on all versions of Niume

In a world with bells in every church, and a church on every second intersection, loud noises will be very common. And even water-powered foundries are pretty noisy. It's still possible Pasquale missed a bet, but it wouldn't surprise me if 'he' was working from a copy of the current OSH regs when that part of the Book was drafted. Hearing protection may not be an entirely strange idea even if the sophistication of the prescription is on a par with the expected level of the threat [ie: "don't go into the belfry when the bells are being rung"]

EdThomas wrote:This can only be an issue if Pasqual identifies it as such. Since Pasqual's rules were written even before gun powder was around, I find it highly unlikely rules against exposure to loud noises would have made the final cut. In a muscle/water/wind-powered world loud noises are not gonna be all that common.

This might also be considered as new and dangerous knowledge.

We really need snippets!!!

Louis R wrote:In a world with bells in every church, and a church on every second intersection, loud noises will be very common. And even water-powered foundries are pretty noisy. It's still possible Pasquale missed a bet, but it wouldn't surprise me if 'he' was working from a copy of the current OSH regs when that part of the Book was drafted. Hearing protection may not be an entirely strange idea even if the sophistication of the prescription is on a par with the expected level of the threat [ie: "don't go into the belfry when the bells are being rung"]

This might also be considered as new and dangerous knowledge.

Here is a quote from LAMA October 896 Chapter XXIII

The assembly line they’d just finished inspecting was the product of his suggestion, and the noise level of the pneumatic and hydraulic machinery was the next best thing to deafening. That was why both of them wore the ear protection and safety helmets Howsmyn had issued to his entire workforce.

It must be somewhat effective in noise reduction, because the paragraph before this, Howsmyn is telling Paityr Wylsynn that he can't hear him because of the ear protection.

JRM

JRM wrote:
Here is a quote from LAMA October 896 Chapter XXIII

The assembly line they’d just finished inspecting was the product of his suggestion, and the noise level of the pneumatic and hydraulic machinery was the next best thing to deafening. That was why both of them wore the ear protection and safety helmets Howsmyn had issued to his entire workforce.

It must be somewhat effective in noise reduction, because the paragraph before this, Howsmyn is telling Paityr Wylsynn that he can't hear him because of the ear protection.

JRM

Thank you, JRM, for finding this and bringing it to our attention. My guess is, this is a detail RFC left out of the books as an unnecessary detail.

I was Regular Army 1959-62. No hearing protection of any kind was even thought of. Which is probably why I have difficulty hearing some frequencies now.

But if Safehold ever gets to 'music' festivals and amplifiers they'll have a generation of deaf kids before they know it's happening.

Cheers

John

'twas normal by a decade later - although ISTR references to gun-deck crews in the Napoleonic War period stuffing oakum in their ears, which indicates the problem was known a century and a half earlier. Haven't been able to track down a reasonably authoritative source for it so far, and can't recall where I first heard about it.

As for 'music', yeah, tell me about it. I remember walking across the floor in a uni gym with a band going to town on stage: your gut could literally _feel_ the interference fringes set up by the bass towers. Given that the event was the 1979 Undergraduate Physics Conference, one would have thought the phenomenon would have attracted a lot of attention, but no...

John Prigent wrote:I was Regular Army 1959-62. No hearing protection of any kind was even thought of. Which is probably why I have difficulty hearing some frequencies now.

But if Safehold ever gets to 'music' festivals and amplifiers they'll have a generation of deaf kids before they know it's happening.

Cheers

John

John Prigent wrote:I was Regular Army 1959-62. No hearing protection of any kind was even thought of. Which is probably why I have difficulty hearing some frequencies now.

But if Safehold ever gets to 'music' festivals and amplifiers they'll have a generation of deaf kids before they know it's happening.

Cheers

John

John, I hate to mention this, but if you were of age for military service in 1959, there may well be "other" reasons why you have difficulty hearing some frequencies now.

Did you fully understand the implications of what I wrote? I said 'probably' about the gunfire because I never went to pop concerts (yes, they did exist then) or listened to any kind of music at high volumes. As it happens, the audiologists say I don't have any _age-related_ hearing loss at all, just a few frequencies in the range produced by rifle fire. Nor waxed-up ears, I'm glad to say.
Cheers
John

Randomiser wrote:

John Prigent wrote:I was Regular Army 1959-62. No hearing protection of any kind was even thought of. Which is probably why I have difficulty hearing some frequencies now.

But if Safehold ever gets to 'music' festivals and amplifiers they'll have a generation of deaf kids before they know it's happening.

Cheers

John

John, I hate to mention this, but if you were of age for military service in 1959, there may well be "other" reasons why you have difficulty hearing some frequencies now.

John Prigent wrote:Did you fully understand the implications of what I wrote? I said 'probably' about the gunfire because I never went to pop concerts (yes, they did exist then) or listened to any kind of music at high volumes. As it happens, the audiologists say I don't have any _age-related_ hearing loss at all, just a few frequencies in the range produced by rifle fire. Nor waxed-up ears, I'm glad to say.
Cheers
John

I never took you for a beatnik, John, but did wonder about the age related part. Glad to hear it's not affecting you yet.

[Definitely NOT a beatnik! I'm old enough to have seen the very first 'rock'n'roll' movie on first UK release and young enough to know that the stuff peddled nowadays has neither merit nor music. Just thump, thump, thump noises and idiotic lyrics - if you can work out what they say. In fact the current dancing strongly reminds me of Quatermass and the Pit when I'm unlucky enough to be unable to avoid segments of promotional videos shown when some 'star' in interviewed on TV.

Cheers

John (senior curmudgeon)

quote="Randomiser"]

John Prigent wrote:Did you fully understand the implications of what I wrote? I said 'probably' about the gunfire because I never went to pop concerts (yes, they did exist then) or listened to any kind of music at high volumes. As it happens, the audiologists say I don't have any _age-related_ hearing loss at all, just a few frequencies in the range produced by rifle fire. Nor waxed-up ears, I'm glad to say.
Cheers
John

I never took you for a beatnik, John, but did wonder about the age related part. Glad to hear it's not affecting you yet.[/quote]

And for the "Right Honorable Gentleman" I cite:

LAMA February Year of God 897.III Royal Palace, City of Manchyr, Princedom of Corisande, and Charisian Embassy, Siddar City, Republic of Siddarmark

(emphasis mine)

Right at the very beginning of the chapter: "Iris Aplyn-Ahrmak concentrated on her instructor's soothing words. They sounded a bit off through the hearing protection the instructor insisted she wear whenever they visited the range, whether or not they were actively shooting."

And a bit later in the same chapter: "And now, if you'll excuse us Lieutenant," she said, "I have to ask you to step back behind the safety line and cover your ears since you don't appear to have brought plugs with you."

I think we can put this one to bed, n'est ce pas?