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Re: Updates from David
Post by Lunan   » Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:31 pm

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noblehunter wrote:I think War God's Own would be an easier sell for TV than Honor or Safehold. The style and humor would translate better and there aren't as many info dumps to try and translate. Not to mention fewer plot points where people are just sitting around talking.

It puts me in mind of a less campy version of Xena/Hercules.



but much harder to find 7 and a half foot tall lepricans i would think (david has said its an irish acsent)
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Re: Updates from David
Post by Fireflair   » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:49 pm

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I agree that Safehold would be the easiest one to convert to a movie/tv series.

As I said before, consider how many different shows are on TV and how many of them are sci-fi. Depressingly few, though the number is rising. Fantasy is on the ascendant right now. Not really surprising. Action was big in the 90's, based on realistic (HA!) stories of people the average movie go-er could relate to. The generation that's in charge of spending money now grew up with video games, fantasy and sci-fi. They're the ones encouraging producers to fund more shows like Grimm, Supernatural, and the entire Marvel universe coming to the big screen.

I'd say in another decade, or so, we'll see a big improvement in the sci-fi activity, as today's generation starts controlling spending dollars. Younger generations are more interested and integrated with their tech.
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Re: Updates from David
Post by Alistair   » Thu Jul 07, 2016 3:07 am

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Very apprecative of the update can't wait to see the snippets and new book.
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Re: Updates from David
Post by Hans   » Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:09 am

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Hello,

Alistair wrote:Very apprecative of the update can't wait to see the snippets and new book.

Welcome in our, not very exclusive, club
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Re: Updates from David
Post by Gun Boat Diplomacy   » Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:34 pm

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Thanks Duckk
a welcome beam of light in the long dark night of "Between Books"
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Re: Updates from David
Post by roseandheather   » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:46 am

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*undignified whooping noises*
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Re: Updates from David
Post by saber964   » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:35 am

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Let the begging groveling wheaddling cajoling pleading etc etc begin.
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Re: Updates from David
Post by Cartref   » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:24 pm

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WeberFan wrote:Duckk:

Thanks a whole bunch for the update :D . While I think we'd all like David's "work product" sooner rather than later, I definitely understand and empathize! The more important thing for me is that David and Sharon are doing well and his creative juices are flowing smoothly.



I too would like to say thank you and especially good to hear that David & family are doing well.

Cheers & beers :D
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Re: Updates from David
Post by OrlandoNative   » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:26 pm

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kzt wrote:It's easy to show how a media property is a sure winner if you only look at the winners. And the people that run studios only invest in things they think are winners (or are low cost and ideologically correct). It turns out that they are not always right.

Let me remind you of some of the other SF/F films out there that you have somehow failed to mention:

John Carter lost $122 million dollars.
The most well known story of Japan, the 47 Ronin, was turned via the magic of Hollywood into a $150 million crater.
Green Lantern lost $90 million
Jupiter Ascending lost $87 million.
Treasure Planet lost $85 million.
Supernova lost $82 million.
Tomorrowland lost $76 million
Battlefield Earth lost $73 million
Red Planet lost $63 million
Sphere lost $61 million


And since I saw most of those you list, I could probably tell you *why*, too.

Many of them were "based" on novels written, in some cases, decades before, and, thus, the original story line/plot was well known to lots of people, not necessarily "hard core" science fiction readers. In most cases, the movie barely, if at all, followed the original story line. People who liked the original story went to see the movie, and it wasn't anywhere near what they expected. With the internet, that's all it took to discourage others from checking it out.

For that matter, even some movies that were adaptations of books that did well often leave out large portions of the book plot (think the Twilight Saga); but at least a good bit of what they did include was obviously based on the original story line. Some fans may not like having some of those chunks left out, but at least they recognize it's more of a device to fit the movie to a particular length of showtime rather that something totally different from what they expect.

Another case, in another genre, are the Bourne films. They don't follow Ludlum's Bourne plot really at all, but the action scenes rescued them to a large extent. That and popularity of the title character actor.

And yet another - The Sum of All Fears is totally different from the Tom Clancy novel it was allegedly based on. The novel had Arab terrorists, not neo-Nazis. The target city was Denver, not Baltimore. There was a middle east treaty in the book that is totally lacking in the movie; with prominent Saudi involvement. Chronologically, it's out of sequence from where the book is in the Ryan series. For Ryan to be that young, it would have to have been prior to or about the same time as Red Rabbit.
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Re: Updates from David
Post by kzt   » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:46 pm

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Well, of course they screwed up. They didn't go into this planning on losing their shirts, however it still worked out that way. And they keep this in mind when instead they go for reboots of old successful movies or sequels to successful movies instead of something new.
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