Silverwall wrote:darrell wrote:Just one word: Illuminati
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati
founded on May 1, 1776 then went underground when the catholic church outlawed them in 1784. here is an example of a secret society that has remained hidden for hundreds of years.
Start out telling your teenage kid that you are a genie and better than everyone else. after he/she braggs a couple of times and gets the C**P beat out of him/her a few times he/she will learn to keep his/her mouth shut.
Than when he is in his late 20's, introduce him/her into the outer layer of the onion. You are destined to be a leader of men, we are a secret group and will help you, you will need to help others once you become successful.
Once he/she becomes a successful leader, he/she is introduced to the next layer of the onion.
Sorry but nothing in the more reputable sources to suggest that the illuminati actually exist as a real thing outside the dates you mention. Trying to claim otherwise is laughable and is generally considered to be proof of belonging to the moster raving loony conspiricy brigade. Trying to use them as an example to support the Onion is laughable, again they are not secret, everyone knows about them. No serious scholar suggests that the illuminati are anything more than a particularly successful myth and darling of hollywood.
The short version is that there is no credible evidence of ANY conspiricy (government or otherwise) being totally invisible for any significant period of time. Human society just does not work that way. There are totally visible "secret societies" such as the Masons and governement secrets shuch as Area 52 and whatever the ministry of ungentelmany warfare did in WW2 but while the details are murky the existance of these organisations and the general organisation goals are never in doubt. For years the NSA was know as no such agency as they were not officially acknowledged but tht didn't mean that they were actually secret.
Lack of evidence does not prove that something doesn't exist. I am not aware of anything that formally disbanded the Illuminati.
to quote Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati
Illuminati—along with Freemasonry and other secret societies—were outlawed through edict, by the Bavarian ruler, Charles Theodore, with the encouragement of the Roman Catholic Church, in 1784, 1785, 1787 and 1790
if outlawing the Illuminati in 1784 caused it to disband, why did they need to outlaw it a second time in 1785, a third time in 1787, or a 4th time in 1790?
If freemasonry was also outlawed at the same time but still survives, why can't the Illuminati? One reason that Illuminati rumors persist is that no one can find proof that the Illuminati actually ceased to exist, so it is possible that it exists to this day.
See how successful the Illuminati are in keeping secrets? There is no evidence that the Illuminati have disbanded, and there is evidence that the Illuminati did exist well into the 19th century.
In the same way that there is no """credible""" evidence that the Illuminati exists there was no """credible""" evidence that the MAlign existed before McBride and herlander.