New Pod layer new CLAC new LAC

But where are the Medusan sting ray ships... Surely that would be better than "mere" LAC's...

Think of it as a larger SD(P) with LAC (longer) versions in both fore and aft bays. Mounted internally in hollow sections filled with frameworks that hold and cycle the LAC in and out of storage, to repair bays reload bays etc... Crew loading bays. One the outside it is very much like a SD(P) just a bit larger. With lots of CM PD and lasers. I suppose it could have grasers too, but they almost never get used at least Lasers can be used in Anti missile defense. Some Long range telemetry but not much and four total Keyhole I or II's. Keyhole I's should actually be fine.

The length of the Highlander 282's for lack of a better name, would allow for four end to end internally for and aft with dual LAC heavily armoured doors at each chase hammerhead. Think of it like a huge Roland with LAC instead of Mk16 missiles. Lots of Armour and four Keyhole I's.

Centre section of the ship would be solid each end hollow. Hollow sections would hold, easily 50 LAC 4x4x3-4. Say 12x4 or 13x4 each section plus or minus some. 100 LAC total.

Highlander 282 Would be 120-140 metres long. Offer everything the Katana does maybe in a mini SD(P) form. A pair of lasers with the CM/Viper Aft. And 4x pods of Mk23's with telemetry for one pod 9 missiles 8+Apollo. At 5 metres the missiles fit no problem. Arranged in a better hex pattern 3 over 2 with Apollo over 3. Hex pattern is more efficient than a rectangular box every time. or a circular pattern Apollo in middle and Two Mk23's above and to each side.

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Pattern two per broadside. No reloads just one shot each.

This gives 400 pods but with internal reloads.

Firing 900 missile salvos

Lasers mounted each side and between the pod patterns. Plus PD clusters on top. Use the Fission cores and Pod fusion start ups for each section.

This gives LAC with fire power, A better SD(P) with bigger missile salvos and no need to take care of the pods after launching them. And the ability to dump the LAC out in the system like was done in Oyster bay, and have them fly fight their way in, but given LAC stealth they wouldn't be detected.

As for any Destroyer or light cruiser that jumps out to investigate what jumped into their system, they would suddenly be facing a huge SD(P) / small forte like craft.

This creates, using known GA tech, the only way anyone has been able to attack a modern system. All other system attacks have failed. Even the current mass system pod system would be hard pressed to counter this kind of attack, ship design. No I'm not suggesting using a spider drive, I'm suggesting using the stealthy LAC wedge but staying far enough away, and using ballistic coasting, plus stealth tech to float into a system and attack from outside the limit. Then rendezvous with the main ship and hyper space out of the system. Main ship(s) would kill any investigating ship(s), then hyper out of the system. Or deploy a few LAC then hyper to a new section of the system to deploy the rest of the LAC. 50 Whitehavens could deploy 100 Highlander 282's each, 5000 total launching Some way out some closer in. Enough to send the whole modern system into conniptions. But after a week or two of finding nothing, what are you going to do? Plus a few dummy jumps closer in to test defenses. Then hyper out. Kill any local defenses and small ships and telemetry systems. Ending the strangest attack or system probe with all 50 ships jumping into a grouped attack on pocket of system defenses, before jumping out of the system enmass. This jump in and deploy or dummy deploy could last for a couple weeks. LAC staying 150Gm away from the targets. during this time, while defenses are probed and attacked by the big ships. This info is of course relayed to the LAC.

Suddenly some missiles / pods are attacking fixed targets, others ships. Ships attacked in 5000 pod Salvo's, under full control, Others attacked by missiles previous deployed and programmed in. 5000 pods would be 45,000 missiles. 35-40,000 laser warheads, or contact nukes. Even Manticore in all its might right now could be hard pressed by just 50 ships. 250 Whitehaven's would amount to 175,000 to 200,000 warhead missile salvos under full control. Plus 525,000 - 600,000 programmed in, given the information the Whitehaven's acquire before jumping out. In the chaos the LAC make their way out of the system or wait for the Whitehavens to return with another 50,000 Shrikes. Highlander 282's being twice the length of the smaller Shrike LAC. 250 Whitehavens are a lot of ships, but systems like Manticore aren't going to fall to anything less.

But...........where would you put the Bolos?

zuluwiz wrote:But...........where would you put the Bolos?

Right next to the battle armor storage for the treecat marines.

MuonNeutrino wrote:

zuluwiz wrote:But...........where would you put the Bolos?

Right next to the battle armor storage for the treecat marines.

You mean the powered armor that makes treecats faster than a speeding pulser, able to leap tall buildings with a single bound?

darrell wrote:You mean the powered armor that makes treecats faster than a speeding pulser, able to leap tall buildings with a single bound?

Why would treecats want armor that slowed them down that much?

DAHAK would stomp over this tiny ship of yours Skimper.

Skimper, just who do you think is going to build this idiocy?

Anybody who could build it has better and more important things to spend their time and effort on. More effective things, too.



It's not just that Whitehaven would shoot you for naming it after him and the courtmartial would give him a medal.
If you brought this to "Horrible" Hemphill at her most extreme, she'd kick you out of her office and have you committed.



50 of these to attack a major system? Huh ... I think I'll take four or five Batrons of SD(P)s, a couple squadrons of CLACs, and some destroyers/escorts to scout out the system using recon drones before going in.
Mistletoe the static defenses and any warships that are sufficiently exposed. If the defender's mobile force elements have really dropped the ball on readiness, recon drone wedge-on-hull intersects would work just fine.



Also ... you certainly can use broadside graser mounts in the anti-missile role, just like broadside laser mounts. Admittedly, they're not the most effective means to do so, nor the most space-efficient form of active anti-missile defense.

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Just let it go - logic is a foreign concept to Skimper; pointing out all of the numerous flaws in his ideas just encourages him by giving him a target he can train his bullshit emitters on. Just ignore it, or point and laugh like everyone else.

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Skimper, that is a set of designs worthy of Squealer from Worm, probably in conjunction with L33T.

(For those who haven't read the story in question, Squealer creates badly-designed, heavily-armoured vehicles prone to breaking down while L33T is an inventor renowned for how much his tech implodes/explodes/shorts out)