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by Duckk » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:33 pm | |
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Except the Havenites weren't just blindly firing all their CMs to fill space with CM wedges. They still fundamentally aimed their CMs, they just accepted a level of premature telemetry cutoff, resulting in degraded accuracy, in order to set up for the next CM launch.
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by Somtaaw » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:39 pm | |
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True, I should have been slightly more clear. Republic post-Buttercup relied more on hip shots and mass, accepting lower accuracy in favor of getting more CMs into space. Manticoran had the intended goal, of trying to achieve, to paraphase the sniper joke, "one missile, one countermissile". Even Manticore can't achieve that, not for lack of trying, however the Republic is willing to accept something more like "1 missile, four countermissiles". In contrast, the SLN ships would be something more like... "one missile, 30 countermissiles [and five thousand rounds of autocannon shells]" |
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by saber964 » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:20 pm | |
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Minor nit pick, a 16 inch shell is 406 mm, 8 in is 203 mm and 105 mm is 4.1 inch. |
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by Relax » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:14 pm | |
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Since being an ass retentive seems to be in vogue Is that before or after the shell is fired... _________
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by saber964 » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:34 pm | |
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Those are the most common sizes and not really OCD. But if you want confusing the IJN rounded off millimetres e.g. 406 = 410 = 16.1 inches or 203 = 200 = 7.9 inches. It really confused western intelligence services for years. |
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by MaxxQ » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:44 pm | |
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In the spirit of nitpicking, I have to do that here. A Viper uses the same exact laserhead as a Mk-13 (what you refer to as a DD missile), and is 3m long. You are correct that a Mk-13 contains six laserheads. The Mk-16 DDM (what I assume you're referring to when you say a BC missile) does indeed have six 5 meter laserheads. The Mk-23 (SD-grade missile) has the exact same laserheads as the Mk-16 - 5m long - but has ten of them. I refer you to here: http://maxxqbunine.deviantart.com/art/F ... -465723413 http://maxxqbunine.deviantart.com/art/M ... -465724671 http://maxxqbunine.deviantart.com/art/M ... -465724314 http://maxxqbunine.deviantart.com/art/M ... -465724020 http://maxxqbunine.deviantart.com/art/M ... -465723786 http://maxxqbunine.deviantart.com/art/M ... -465723662 =================
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by Lord Skimper » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:03 am | |
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How many laser heads does the cataphract have? If it is just a laser head on a CM why wouldn't a Viper have this many laser heads as well? Assuming it is more than one.
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by Vince » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:44 am | |
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CM's do have some capability to be fired at less than 100% of maximum acceleration. Exactly how much is not given in text: Italics are the author's, boldface is my emphasis. -------------------------------------------------------------
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by Annachie » Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:01 am | |
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I can teally only see two times that box launching CM's could be used.
1 is the really long range shots that need to follow a predictable path due to that range (unlikely and unlikely to be better than normal anyway), and that short time between a ship loosing a close in radar and that blind spot being covered by a fellow ship, which is probably already part of fleet CM doctrine anyway. Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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by Jonathan_S » Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:43 am | |
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Yep it says that in the first book. But then later RFC said that they can't be, it's a tradeoff to get their accel higher than a ship killer using the same tech level. I don't know if he forgot he'd written otherwise in OBS, or decided to change his mind, or just mentally reconned it to an ability the more sluggish CMs used by the ancient CL Fearless used which had been eliminated in search of better acceleration in everyone's more modern designs... (Fearless had CMs capable of 90500g, IIRC the CMs used for most of the first war were maybe 98,000g, and the current ones are 130,000g) |
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