Shadow of Victory – Publication date

George J. Smith wrote:But when are we going to get some snippets though?

that would be my question.

darrell wrote:

George J. Smith wrote:But when are we going to get some snippets though?

that would be my question.

I would guess early July. What I understand happens is that RFC and possibly Baen figures out how much they want to snippet, usually based on a good point to leave the fans hanging and wanting to rush out and buy the book, and then work backwards at three snippets a week. When they get back to the first snippet, that's when they start. Span of Empire started snippeting four months before publication date, which is why I suspect early July.

Snippets are entirely up to the author - some do, some don't, some share quasi-random chunks of draft [and then leave you guessing if it will survive to publication].

Span is being snippeted under Ursus Rufus' Industrial Snippeting System [aka Drak Bibliophile], and he generally lets you have 70-75% of the book - but not until the day before the entire e-book will be available, and long after the 2nd Webscription tranche is available.

Himself doesn't like to hand out much more than the 25% that Baen puts in sample chapters. Usually he'll go to about 30%, maybe a bit more. Particularly since some ****le complained that there wasn't enough book left to be worth reading one time when he snippeted ~40%

JohnRoth wrote:

George J. Smith wrote:But when are we going to get some snippets though?

I would guess early July. What I understand happens is that RFC and possibly Baen figures out how much they want to snippet, usually based on a good point to leave the fans hanging and wanting to rush out and buy the book, and then work backwards at three snippets a week. When they get back to the first snippet, that's when they start. Span of Empire started snippeting four months before publication date, which is why I suspect early July.

Louis R wrote:Himself doesn't like to hand out much more than the 25% that Baen puts in sample chapters. Usually he'll go to about 30%, maybe a bit more. Particularly since some ****le complained that there wasn't enough book left to be worth reading one time when he snippeted ~40%

I remember the 2nd Safehold-Novel (BSRA). The Snippets covered nearly 70% of the whole book - and that was definitely too much. After that, he changed the snippeting to the "one-third-of-a-book-policy", and I (for myself) am comfortable with that.

JohnRoth wrote:

George J. Smith wrote:But when are we going to get some snippets though?

I would guess early July. What I understand happens is that RFC and possibly Baen figures out how much they want to snippet, usually based on a good point to leave the fans hanging and wanting to rush out and buy the book, and then work backwards at three snippets a week. When they get back to the first snippet, that's when they start. Span of Empire started snippeting four months before publication date, which is why I suspect early July.

Louis R wrote:Snippets are entirely up to the author - some do, some don't, some share quasi-random chunks of draft [and then leave you guessing if it will survive to publication].

Span is being snippeted under Ursus Rufus' Industrial Snippeting System [aka Drak Bibliophile], and he generally lets you have 70-75% of the book - but not until the day before the entire e-book will be available, and long after the 2nd Webscription tranche is available.

Himself doesn't like to hand out much more than the 25% that Baen puts in sample chapters. Usually he'll go to about 30%, maybe a bit more. Particularly since some ****le complained that there wasn't enough book left to be worth reading one time when he snippeted ~40%

Let's do some speculative math. Based on an earlier comment where he said he was up to 300,000 words and would cut 100,000 during editing, the final book will be about 200,000 words. That's 50 to 60 thousand snippets at a thousand words per snippet.

Four months is 17 weeks or 51 snippets at three per week. Hence early July, possibly late June.

Eagleeye wrote:I remember the 2nd Safehold-Novel (BSRA). The Snippets covered nearly 70% of the whole book - and that was definitely too much. After that, he changed the snippeting to the "one-third-of-a-book-policy", and I (for myself) am comfortable with that.

And then there was the storm from the Shadows oopsie where the first snippet inadvertently included the entire book [G]

JohnRoth wrote:
Let's do some speculative math. Based on an earlier comment where he said he was up to 300,000 words and would cut 100,000 during editing, the final book will be about 200,000 words. That's 50 to 60 thousand snippets at a thousand words per snippet.

Four months is 17 weeks or 51 snippets at three per week. Hence early July, possibly late June.

Only if the MWW delegates the snippeting (to Drak Bibliophile, for example). If he does it by himself ... 1 snippet in 10 days was the average, at least for "Multiverse 3 - a road to hell" or "The Sword of the South". Admittedly, the snippets were longer, but we had times without snippets as long as a month, too. Davids life is just too ... interesting and not predictable to allow him a regular snippeting.

David is a master at wetting the appetite with his snippets. Remember from Safehold, Irys at the shooting range or Merlin on the barge we were all slobbering over them and speculating on the stories for months on just a few sentences in the case of Irys.

The snippets are fun when predictably organized. What happened with RTH and LAMA last year was a source of frustration for anyone interested in following them.

I hope Drak gets his job back.

Don

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n7axw wrote:The snippets are fun when predictably organized. What happened with RTH and LAMA last year was a source of frustration for anyone interested in following them.

I hope Drak gets his job back.

Don

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I wasn't aware he lost it. He's currently posting snippets four four different books at Eric's site. That's where I go to read snippets, because there's frequently a bit of a discusion about each one.