Weird Harold wrote:Somtaaw wrote:If they're still sticking vertically outside the hull with bays,
You are the only one trying to put them vertically. All of the rest of us are talking about horizontal bays the same as larger CLACs have. Most of us also realize that any escort LAC design is going to be built from scratch and NOT a conversion of an existing Reliant or BC(P).
Most of also realize that an Escort CLAC is going to have even more fragility than a BC(P) and this not be terrible practical. (Skimpy being the primary exception.
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I was misinterpreting how Darrel was nattering on about the offsetting, his original image looked pretty much like a vertical repesentation.
And actually, the LAC's are not fully enclosed in the DN/SD CLACs, or at least not the Manticoran CLAC's. Their service bays "clamp" around the bows, just far enough to encompass their launchers. That's how the DN's can keep their reactors in the exact centre of the ships, without displacement.
darrell wrote:Now that we have more detailed info, lets redo the calculation. From HoS a gryphon class SD at 8.339M tons and 199M wide. The Shrike B is 72M long.
On a DN or SD LAC carrier, With lac's stacked 3 high and 30+ wide, the service and loading area must be between the LAC's and at least 10M wide. That means that minimum width would be 156M. If ship proportions are the same, then the minimum size for a CLAC would be 4,017K tons
Well your math is off, because a 3 high by 30 wide broadside of LACs is 90 LACs, for a total of 180 LAC's. That's more than 50% more LACs than Minotaurs carried (100), and a little less than 50% for the GSN Covngintons (124). And it's also about 25% less than what a RHN Aviary can carry around, at 250+. If you split total LACs carried in half for each broadside, that means even a Covington only requires around 62 bays per side. If you arrange the bays onto 3 decks, pretending the LAC bays were the grasers and missile tubes they replaced you'd only require 21 bays per line.
Shrikes are 20m wide, plus their bays will add at least 5m per LAC, so a total of 525m of each broadside is devoted to just the LAC bays, and the Minotaurs are 1184m from bow hammerhead to stern. Isn't it something like 20-30% of a warship is just the hammerhead flares? 1184 * 0.7 = 828.8m for the core hull, and with the PDLC's and CM tubes padding the broadside size a bit 550 & change for 21 bays + CMs and PDLC's actually sounds pretty close to bang on without crowding too close to impeller rings.
Covingtons managed their slightly increased LAC loadouts, while also being slightly shorter than the Minotaurs, at a total length of 1135m and also managed to squeeze in a couple broadside lasers to boot (somehow). I'm assuming they must have put some things a little closer to the impeller rings than the RMN was willing to accept.
