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Re: The best fiction tells the truth, carefully edited..
Post by Dafmeister   » Tue May 17, 2016 7:40 am

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Rincewind wrote:
saber964 wrote:FYI the League Assembly is more like the United Nations General Assembly than any national legislative branch of government.


Actually, to my way of thinking the League Assembly is more like the European Parliament, & the SL bureaucracy is more like the European Council. Certainly true power in the EU is vested in the unelected Council whereas in the United Nations there is a separate Council, the Security Council, that does have more real power.

Perhaps I think that because of my experience with the EU & especially with the Referendum on EU membership coming up here in the UK.


I think you're confusing the European Council with the European Commission. The Commission is the EU's civil service bureaucracy. The European Council is a body made up the heads of state of the member nations, plus representatives of certain EU bodies.
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Re: The best fiction tells the truth, carefully edited..
Post by cthia   » Tue May 17, 2016 7:49 am

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The best Sci-Fi authors have crystal balls fueled by foresight.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: The best fiction tells the truth, carefully edited..
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Tue May 17, 2016 4:11 pm

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cthia wrote:The best Sci-Fi authors have crystal balls fueled by foresight.


Some of the second tier Sci-Fi writers have brass balls fueled by rum :?
Just my 2 ₡ worth
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Re: The best fiction tells the truth, carefully edited..
Post by saber964   » Tue May 17, 2016 5:45 pm

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cthia wrote:The best Sci-Fi authors have crystal balls fueled by foresight.



Yesterday's Science Fiction is today's technology.

Also

One man's mumbo jumbo, is another man's science and thirds religion.
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Re: The best fiction tells the truth, carefully edited..
Post by darrell   » Tue May 17, 2016 6:16 pm

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saber964 wrote:
cthia wrote:The best Sci-Fi authors have crystal balls fueled by foresight.



Yesterday's Science Fiction is today's technology.

Also

One man's mumbo jumbo, is another man's science and thirds religion.


As a prime example, from wikipedia:

Rocket Ship Galileo is a science fiction novel by Robert A. Heinlein, published in 1947, about three teenagers who participate in a pioneering flight to the Moon. It was the first in the Heinlein juveniles, a long and successful series of science fiction novels published by Scribner's. The novel was originally envisioned as the first of a series of books called "Young Rocket Engineers". It was initially rejected by publishers, because going to the moon was "too far out"
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Re: The best fiction tells the truth, carefully edited..
Post by Rincewind   » Fri May 20, 2016 6:44 pm

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Dafmeister wrote:
I think you're confusing the European Council with the European Commission. The Commission is the EU's civil service bureaucracy. The European Council is a body made up the heads of state of the member nations, plus representatives of certain EU bodies.


My bad. You are right; I had confused the two although it shows how easy it is to confuse them.

I still stand by my comparison of the Solarian League to the EU though.
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Re: The best fiction tells the truth, carefully edited..
Post by drinksmuchcoffee   » Fri May 20, 2016 7:23 pm

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saber964 wrote:Yesterday's Science Fiction is today's technology.


Yes, I remember how I shot a mad dog with my laser pistol while returning home in my aircar. I was coming back from the spaceport after a tour of our Lunar and Martian colonies.

Yet at the same time, the computers and "AI"s of nearly all science fiction more than 20 years old seem hopelessly obsolete by today's standards.

Technology and science do not always advance in predictable or expected ways.
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Re: The best fiction tells the truth, carefully edited..
Post by Vince   » Fri May 20, 2016 7:43 pm

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drinksmuchcoffee wrote:
saber964 wrote:Yesterday's Science Fiction is today's technology.


Yes, I remember how I shot a mad dog with my laser pistol while returning home in my aircar. I was coming back from the spaceport after a tour of our Lunar and Martian colonies.

Yet at the same time, the computers and "AI"s of nearly all science fiction more than 20 years old seem hopelessly obsolete by today's standards.

Technology and science do not always advance in predictable or expected ways.

Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future. -- Attributed to various persons.
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Re: The best fiction tells the truth, carefully edited..
Post by kzt   » Fri May 20, 2016 10:53 pm

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Vince wrote:Technology and science do not always advance in predictable or expected ways.

Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future. -- Attributed to various persons.[/quote]
You need to keep in mind Abraham Lincoln's valuable warning about believing quotes on the Internet.
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Re: The best fiction tells the truth, carefully edited..
Post by Vince   » Fri May 20, 2016 11:22 pm

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kzt wrote:
Vince wrote:Technology and science do not always advance in predictable or expected ways.

Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future. -- Attributed to various persons.

You need to keep in mind Abraham Lincoln's valuable warning about believing quotes on the Internet.[/quote]

Yes, definitely. I remembered the quote, but didn't know who said it. When I searched on the web, there were several persons who supposedly said it, and I couldn't determine who said it first. So I didn't specify a name of someone who might have said it first, but who also might have been quoting someone else.

Also, this section in your reply:
Technology and science do not always advance in predictable or expected ways.
was not posted by me. It was actually posted by drinksmuchcoffee.

What I actually posted was this section:
Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future. -- Attributed to various persons.

Thus proving your assertion that:
kzt wrote:You need to keep in mind Abraham Lincoln's valuable warning about believing quotes on the Internet.
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