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Re: Under ground military bases
Post by cthia   » Thu May 12, 2016 8:15 am

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Let's not forget...

White House Construction: The New West Wing Bunker

In 2010, the West Wing underground command center project secretly got underway. The construction equipment arrived and tall fences went up around the West Wing of the White House. An initial ill-conceived scheme to deceive the public about the true nature of the construction led to the widespread reporting of a mere "utility upgrade" project. However, the massive scope of the construction led to many questions and outrageous conspiracy theories.

While some officials in federal government agencies sought access to this secret information, most Americans were left in the dark. In a spirit of openness and transparency, the Obama Administration has decided to set the record straight.

Building Our New West Wing Underground Command Center

Since the early 1960's, the need for a Deep Underground Command Center (DUCC) has been studied. This Top Secret 1963 memo outlined the requirements for the construction of a DUCC. Because of limits in technology at that time, the project was deferred. Fifty years later, the DUCC is finally becoming a reality.

The new underground command center serves two purposes: 1) To protect key people with sufficient staff and data to render critical decisions and 2) Ensure the survival of the facility to allow dissemination of these decisions. The DUCC can only serve this purpose if the President and his team can secretly relocate there on very short notice.

Unlike the old Presidential Emergency Operations Center (PEOC) which is currently located below the East Wing of the White House, the new secret command center will house its own massive communications data center that interfaces with all military, intelligence, and critical federal agency systems. For security purposes, the exact specifications of the this command bunker are classified.

To continue reading and photos, see...
https://whitehouse.gov1.info/tunnel/index.html

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Re: Under ground military bases
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Thu May 12, 2016 9:47 am

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Weird Harold wrote:
C. O. Thompson wrote:Thanks Harold... I agree that such articles have to be checked and I knew about Cheyenne MT but the spin I got was more like the underground city or some place that The Donald (or some such) may try to hide if he kicked a hornets nest.


You mean something like the Congressional Bunker at Greenbriar?

http://www.greenbrier.com/Activities/The-Bunker.aspx


Yes! Like that. I have a hard time thinking that the captain of the Titanic should get in the life boat before the last passenger, but when they get all the cream off the top for themselves and their friends and then deny the voter/taxpayer the skim milk I guess I should not be surprised.

The blame shifting, denial and greed that has given us more than 20 years of gridlock and a paralyses of government, should not be further rewarded.
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Re: Under ground military bases
Post by Lord Skimper   » Thu May 12, 2016 9:57 am

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I'll just add with my limited experience with the American military machine that they don't want the cheapest, they want the best, for the important stuff.

Likelihood of tunnelled bases is huge. Rumour has it that Nevada is one big tunnel complex. You could bet that just about any base or previous base or previous installation on any base is full of tunnels. Likely mined out, tunnel boring machines are likely used in a variety of ways. Usually the backhoe type, the big round ones might be used now, but wouldn't have been used previously. Concrete and rebar.

In reality more like the SG1 complex not the Hulk Complex with linking tunnels.

In the 90's the Russians revealed they have an entire secret city under the Yamantau mountain. 60,000 spaces for people along the Trans Siberian Railway. Plus others.
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Re: Under ground military bases
Post by HB of CJ   » Thu May 12, 2016 12:17 pm

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Most of the stuff must remain secret at any cost. We must understand such vast deep nuclear powered 30 year procured underground redoubts are not so much for us underlings, but for the top cream of our own non elected government.

In other more succinct terms, our government does not care about the people. Our government only cares about the government. The many secret deep self sustained long term bunkers are NOT for us ... they are for THEM. We once had civil defense in the USA.

Not any more. "Gone With The Wind". Secrets must be kept. Many non disclosure contracts were signed. Mumm is the word. Let us just say our own government with perhaps key preselected people are already well protected if the major turds ever hit the fan.

Major feces being defined as a absolutely world wide ultimate disaster. A really big volcano would do it. So would a big asteroid strike. Also total global thermal nuclear war. Yep ... the elite human species would live. You and I may not. Yikes!!

Nuclear powered. Ever wonder what happened to all of those L.A. Class nuclear attack sub reactor cores that were to be dismantled? Hee hee hee. Can not say any more. Anyhow, the USA alone could put about 10,000 top folks deep underground.

And keep them there as long as necessary up to and including decades. Did I mention Space Aliens or Pole Shift? How about a really big nasty X10000 Solar Flare? Or how about a direct hit gamma burst? We got you covered. Ooops .. just government.
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Re: Under ground military bases
Post by Weird Harold   » Thu May 12, 2016 4:09 pm

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cthia wrote:To continue reading and photos, see...
https://whitehouse.gov1.info/tunnel/index.html


You do realize that is a parody site and not to be trusted for factual information?

Another interesting idea: https://www.google.com/search?q=Highway+Fallout+Shelter&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Didn't go anywhere because of cost, but interesting nevertheless
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Re: Under ground military bases
Post by cthia   » Thu May 12, 2016 9:16 pm

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I've always thought that there is something militarily clandestine about the Grand Canyon. Well, regarding the fact that you are not allowed to descend but just so far. Even by helicopter. Especially by helicopter. I don't care how many trips I make to the Canyon - that will always be peculiar.

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Re: Under ground military bases
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Fri May 13, 2016 9:50 am

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HB of CJ wrote:Most of the stuff must remain secret at any cost. We must understand such vast deep nuclear powered 30 year procured underground redoubts are not so much for us underlings, but for the top cream of our own non elected government.

In other more succinct terms, our government does not care about the people. Our government only cares about the government. The many secret deep self sustained long term bunkers are NOT for us ... they are for THEM. We once had civil defense in the USA.

Not any more. "Gone With The Wind". Secrets must be kept. Many non disclosure contracts were signed. Mumm is the word. Let us just say our own government with perhaps key preselected people are already well protected if the major turds ever hit the fan.

Major feces being defined as a absolutely world wide ultimate disaster. A really big volcano would do it. So would a big asteroid strike. Also total global thermal nuclear war. Yep ... the elite human species would live. You and I may not. Yikes!!

Nuclear powered. Ever wonder what happened to all of those L.A. Class nuclear attack sub reactor cores that were to be dismantled? Hee hee hee. Can not say any more. Anyhow, the USA alone could put about 10,000 top folks deep underground.

And keep them there as long as necessary up to and including decades. Did I mention Space Aliens or Pole Shift? How about a really big nasty X10000 Solar Flare? Or how about a direct hit gamma burst? We got you covered. Ooops .. just government.


So... who will be the peons when only the cream is left? How many security chiefs will start to covet the wives and daughters of their bosses and what does the boss do when they realize they were not as smart as they thought?? I wonder how the issue of gun control will be handled there?

Some of you will recognize that I also started a thread raising the question about comparisons between the SL Mandarins and the corporations and the movers and shakers of today.

It seems to me that the resources that we are using to provide bunkers wold be far better spent getting out of the gravity well. There may be a limited window of opportunity and it looks to me like it is closing.

Try to find the silver lining.
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Re: Under ground military bases
Post by Lord Skimper   » Fri May 13, 2016 10:06 am

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cthia wrote:I've always thought that there is something militarily clandestine about the Grand Canyon. Well, regarding the fact that you are not allowed to descend but just so far. Even by helicopter. Especially by helicopter. I don't care how many trips I make to the Canyon - that will always be peculiar.



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Re: Under ground military bases
Post by Michael Everett   » Fri May 13, 2016 5:40 pm

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C. O. Thompson wrote:So... who will be the peons when only the cream is left? How many security chiefs will start to covet the wives and daughters of their bosses and what does the boss do when they realize they were not as smart as they thought?? I wonder how the issue of gun control will be handled there?

Someone did a Harry Potter fanfic where the Dark Families gained all the control that they wished for since the Light Families had all left the UK.
Unfortunately, most of the technicians/healers/shopkeepers etc were not aligned with the Dark, as the families who "won" found out too late to do anything about...
The story can be found just here and is very thought-provoking.
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Re: Under ground military bases
Post by Imaginos1892   » Fri May 13, 2016 7:32 pm

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Daryl wrote:In fiction, John Ringo used them in the Posleen series. I could never get comfortable with the concept of a subterranean base with only one exit, too much like a trap.

It was intended to be a trap. Gullible politicians listened to the Darhels' "advice" and, as one character put it, "How could so much concentrated stupid get put in one place?"

The Darhel had a "final solution" which involved the last human and the last Posleen killing each other.
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